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"Taranov Split" of the neighbors hive.

It was getting ready to swarm (queen cells). So we shook out all the bees onto this ramp. The older bees will cross the gap and go back into the old hive (with the only a couple of queen cells and most of the brood). The younger bees and queen won't cross that gap. They think they are a swarm.

Put the 'swarm' into a new hive (no queen cells).

Here's a link that describes the process:

taranov split


Hopefully it works.


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As opposed to doing a cut out?


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Cut outs are getting them out of a wall or the like.

This is to prevent an imminent swarm of a hive.


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Okay.



I saw a bee video where the guy was taking brood frames and such and putting them in empty hives.


Probably honey and queen cells too.



He called that a cut out.


I just watch videos!


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That's probably a split. Similar to what we did.


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Interesting but it looks like a lot of work, it looks like the chance to get some bee stings and did I mention that it looks like work? 😁. I have heard that once you get your hives up and running they’re pretty self-sufficient and don’t require a lot of work but I don’t know how true it is. I find the act of beekeeping and the natural and predictable way the bees have of establishing new colonies to be fascinating, not enough to entice me into doing it, but fascinating nonetheless

I’ll continue to buy local unprocessed honey from our local apiary.

I do admire you guys (and gals) that put the time and effort into beekeeping. You likely don’t realize the positive impact you have on the future of our little friends, the honeybee, not to mention the positive impact you’re having on agriculture in general. 👍

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Interesting.Learn something every day on here. thanks


Originally Posted by Steve

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"Taranov Split" of the neighbors hive.

It was getting ready to swarm (queen cells). So we shook out all the bees onto this ramp. The older bees will cross the gap and go back into the old hive (with the only a couple of queen cells and most of the brood). The younger bees and queen won't cross that gap. They think they are a swarm.

Put the 'swarm' into a new hive (no queen cells).

Here's a link that describes the process:

taranov split


Hopefully it works.


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Turns out one of my hives swarmed while we were doing this. Big assed swarm about 75 feet up a maple tree. Put some bait boxes near it but I doubt I'll catch them.


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Originally Posted by Steve
Turns out one of my hives swarmed while we were doing this. Big assed swarm about 75 feet up a maple tree. Put some bait boxes near it but I doubt I'll catch them.


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Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Interesting but it looks like a lot of work, it looks like the chance to get some bee stings and did I mention that it looks like work? 😁. I have heard that once you get your hives up and running they’re pretty self-sufficient and don’t require a lot of work but I don’t know how true it is. I find the act of beekeeping and the natural and predictable way the bees have of establishing new colonies to be fascinating, not enough to entice me into doing it, but fascinating nonetheless

I’ll continue to buy local unprocessed honey from our local apiary.

I do admire you guys (and gals) that put the time and effort into beekeeping. You likely don’t realize the positive impact you have on the future of our little friends, the honeybee, not to mention the positive impact you’re having on agriculture in general. 👍

I don’t use weed and feed or any other poison in my yard or garden. I’d rather have dandelions and clover in my lawn than a perfectly weed free lawn that was poisoned into compliance. I get annoyed at the hypocritical, liberal, save the world green weenies that cry over the decline in honeybees while they’re out spreading weed killer on the lawns of their perfectly manicured, home owner association compliant yards. They’re too stupid to realize that when you kill their food source you kill them.



They're somewhat self sufficient but you need to manage them. Mites are a big problem. Will kill a hive if you don't keep on top of them.

That said honeybees are doing fine. Its the other pollinators that maybe having issues.


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Interesting. Looks like a lot of work.
Beekeep missed the opportunity to add checkerboarded super boxes to the hive. At the right time, that alone will prevent swarming. Also could have made splits, which I gather is what is being done now.
I would put swarm traps/nucs all over the property. Smear the top bars with honey, inside the box and at the entrance with lemongrass oil.

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Originally Posted by longarm
Interesting. Looks like a lot of work.
Beekeep missed the opportunity to add checkerboarded super boxes to the hive. At the right time, that alone will prevent swarming. Also could have made splits, which I gather is what is being done now.
I would put swarm traps/nucs all over the property. Smear the top bars with honey, inside the box and at the entrance with lemongrass oil.



I was in the hives a week ago and didn't see any signs. Checker boarded anyway. Weather's been real off and on. Schidt happens.


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Totally agree.. schitt happens.
Weather here manic as well. Hard to predict swarming this year. End of this week though looks like a definite

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Here's me and the neighbor trying to shoot the branches that the swarm settled on. Box of shells later and they're still up in the tree.

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Thanks Steve,

Never saw that method before. Doesn't look too difficult. I'll figure all that out if the hives my friend and I are starting in the next week or two survive our winter.

Good luck getting the swarm down. Know anyone with a set of spikes that can climb for you? grin

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The guy I'm with has spikes. But it wouldn't work. Too far out and high up to climb to them. Branches are too small. Would have to top the tree. Then that would be a real mess.

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