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JOGGER...my ass.

After posting multiple links to racist sites criscoe descries media propaganda, you can't beat the CF for critical thinking or make this kind of schidt up. LMFAO.

mike r

How was the jogger dressed?

How was the jogger dressed?

I gotta tell ya I’ve been disappointed in your arguments lately.

Are you suggesting the murders Bristoe posted didn’t happen?

Are you suggesting the MSM doesn’t have an obvious and longstanding bias?

Blocking a public road with one's shotgun out with display
of repeated intent to illegally detain the jogger,
where does self-defence by the shooter come into this?

What if a police cruiser had coincidently gone by
and saw the truck and gun toter as described ,how
would they approach it?

Did the rider in the pickup bed even fire a shot?

I've read about 25 stories on this subject and they don't vary to much.

Travis McMichael, the son of the trucks driver Gregory McMichael did the shooting.
He was riding in the bed of the truck with the shotgun while they pursued Ahmaud Arbery, the supposed burglar.

Gregory McMicheal is a retired LEO.

They had seen Arbery jog by their home and thought he looked like a person they had seen on a security video recorded at a home that had recently been robbed. They were having a rash of homes under construction being stolen from.

Gregory grabbed his 357 and his son a shotgun and they left their home in their pickup looking for the jogger.
They had called another neighbor before they left their home to assist them and he is the one in the car shooting video from his cell phone.
They got close enough to Arbery at one point in the chase to tell him to stop but he avoided them and continued running, they turned their truck around, took another route and were waiting for him when he rounded the corner as seen in the video.

It appears to many that Arbery was attempting to get get around the truck and continue running from them when Travis cut him off in front of the truck with shotgun in hand.

Gregory was on the phone with 911 when his son shot Arbery....

The full police report can be viewed at https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6915-arbery-shooting/b52fa09cdc974b970b79/optimized/full.pdf (it don't exactly match the video but pretty close)

This photo of the father son duo is all over the internet, it's instigated numerous threats for the father and son.

Thanks Dad......

That was the son, he did the shooting, kinda confusing cause dad got out of the truck and hid behind it after his son jumped out of the bed and headed for the front of the truck to head off the jogger...

I said the self-defense claim is imperfect because the initial approach to a suspected burglar was questionable, legally speaking. But after said approach (and keep in mind that we don't know that a firearm was ever pointed at the victim), the victim of the shooting attempted to grab a loaded firearm from one of the men attempting citizen's arrest. That's an attack against which one ordinarily would possess a right to use lethal force to thwart, since it can be reasonably assumed that a suspected burglar, once he has disarmed you, will use said weapon against you.

.. the victim of the shooting attempted to grab a loaded firearm from one of the men attempting citizen's arrest. That's an attack against which one ordinarily would possess a right to use lethal force to thwart,.. .

Was there one shooter......or two?

Someone is repeatedly chasing you with truck and shotgun
blocking your path and telling you to stop!. ,
do they have to point the 12 Guage directly at you
before you take it as an imminent threat?

I said the self-defense claim is imperfect because the initial approach to a suspected burglar was questionable, legally speaking. But after said approach (and keep in mind that we don't know that a firearm was ever pointed at the victim), the victim of the shooting attempted to grab a loaded firearm from one of the men attempting citizen's arrest. That's an attack against which one ordinarily would possess a right to use lethal force to thwart, since it can be reasonably assumed that a suspected burglar, once he has disarmed you, will use said weapon against you.