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What's the go to powder for this combo? Thinking Big Game and H4350.

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I've got a great load using 41.0gr of Varget, Fed 210 and Hornady brass. I shoot it out of a M70 Fwt (22"). It's only about 2675fps, but groups really well.

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R17 has treated me well with 150 BTs in the 7-08. Mule Deer's Chapter on the 7-08 in the Gun Gack Book listed the same load as I've been using with nearly same velocity.

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My favorite loads in acouple rifles is 43.0grs of Varget with the 150gr ballistic tip

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RL17, Big Game, or W760 work well with 150/154. The plastic tips eat up case capacity when loading to 2.800 OAL, which hinders getting enough H4350 in the case.

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Whatever shoots best. My 7-08 preferred H4350 over Big Game or Varget.


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Lots of good advise above.

I'l also consider Imr-4895, RL-15, and CFE-223:

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Cartridge          : 7 mm-08 Rem.
Bullet             : .284, 150, Nosler BalTip 28150
Useable Case Capaci: 46.679 grain H2O = 3.031 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 59000 psi, or 406 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 108 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

43 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 70%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-17 *T              102.4     46.2     2.99    2884   100.0    59000    9039   1.146  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T           107.4     45.0     2.92    2862    99.7    59000    8988   1.147  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     107.3     47.7     3.09    2840    98.4    59000    9123   1.157  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                     101.3     46.1     2.99    2831    97.7    59000    9070   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                       101.3     46.1     2.99    2831    97.7    59000    9070   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C                       106.9     45.5     2.95    2828    99.5    59000    8828   1.164  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      106.4     45.8     2.97    2828    99.5    59000    8818   1.177  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C                 103.7     45.6     2.95    2827    99.4    59000    8936   1.170  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE223 *C                   96.7     45.4     2.94    2823    99.6    59000    8751   1.162  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Big Game                    96.5     44.2     2.87    2803    99.9    59000    8419   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                            95.9     41.3     2.67    2795    99.9    59000    8414   1.178  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C                       105.7     46.9     3.04    2794    95.5    59000    8901   1.159  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 *C               96.7     41.6     2.70    2784    99.8    59000    8370   1.179  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B *C                       97.2     41.8     2.71    2784    99.9    59000    8318   1.179  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2                       91.5     43.0     2.79    2783   100.0    59000    8214   1.180  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       98.9     43.0     2.79    2782   100.0    59000    8209   1.189  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748                      89.0     41.2     2.67    2775   100.0    59000    7896   1.174  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26 *C              108.0     50.0     3.24    2775    97.9    48294    9882   1.246
Hodgdon H380                        98.1     43.1     2.79    2773    99.2    59000    8444   1.182  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World SW4350              105.7     45.0     2.92    2768    97.8    59000    8574   1.184  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Wild Boar                   91.7     42.2     2.73    2768    99.9    59000    8182   1.176  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320                            98.7     41.8     2.71    2768    99.9    59000    8063   1.165  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895                       93.2     40.1     2.60    2767   100.0    59000    8103   1.181  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206H aka H4895              93.5     40.2     2.61    2764    99.9    59000    8146   1.181  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350                           106.4     45.5     2.95    2760    97.0    59000    8461   1.169  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031                            96.4     38.8     2.51    2757   100.0    59000    7473   1.181  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                108.0     45.0     2.91    2753    99.9    55709    8102   1.191  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520                       91.6     41.6     2.69    2751   100.0    59000    7670   1.194  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Match Rifle          93.7     41.6     2.69    2751   100.0    59000    7670   1.194  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 *T                   108.0     45.5     2.95    2751    96.7    58319    8446   1.175  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                       98.7     41.5     2.69    2750   100.0    59000    7668   1.211  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Long Rifle          104.2     43.9     2.84    2748    98.6    59000    8300   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET *T                   99.1     41.3     2.67    2744    99.7    59000    8044   1.173  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208 aka Varget              98.8     41.3     2.67    2744    99.7    59000    8044   1.173  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Precision            97.7     40.9     2.65    2741   100.0    59000    7785   1.190  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC *C                      91.5     42.4     2.75    2740    98.8    59000    8202   1.180  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 aka H4350              108.0     46.2     3.00    2739    94.4    54372    8872   1.196  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4451 Enduron *C*T              101.2     43.0     2.79    2739    97.4    59000    8299   1.173  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530 *C                  89.9     38.9     2.52    2738   100.0    59000    7744   1.181  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064                            99.8     40.6     2.63    2736    99.8    59000    7886   1.178  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        99.5     43.4     2.81    2736    96.9    59000    8329   1.184  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540 *C                  96.3     41.9     2.71    2730   100.0    59000    7631   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 8208 XBR                        91.8     39.5     2.56    2730   100.0    59000    7665   1.181  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201 *C                        94.6     39.8     2.58    2729   100.0    59000    7738   1.195  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C                       108.0     48.5     3.14    2729    94.9    48187    9543   1.253
Vihtavuori N150 *C                 106.2     43.1     2.79    2728   100.0    59000    7634   1.185  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335                        84.8     39.8     2.58    2728   100.0    59000    7488   1.183  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202 *C                        94.0     39.8     2.58    2726   100.0    59000    7472   1.188  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495                       92.8     39.1     2.53    2726   100.0    59000    7354   1.220  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C              108.0     46.5     3.01    2723    94.3    52564    8897   1.217  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             108.0     49.0     3.18    2719    94.6    55657    8538   1.192  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator *C             89.1     40.9     2.65    2718    99.9    59000    7763   1.184  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460                       87.5     40.5     2.63    2716   100.0    59000    7474   1.201  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322                        89.7     37.5     2.43    2715   100.0    59000    7239   1.181  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2219 aka H322                84.4     37.5     2.43    2715   100.0    59000    7239   1.181  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230                       87.3     40.7     2.63    2713   100.0    59000    7568   1.193  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4166 Enduron *C*T              100.1     41.3     2.67    2711    97.5    59000    8006   1.180  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140 *C                 100.8     41.7     2.70    2710   100.0    59000    7455   1.184  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           108.0     44.5     2.88    2706    98.8    51694    8447   1.242  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World AR Plus              86.3     39.8     2.58    2705   100.0    59000    7358   1.198  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant AR-Comp *C *T               91.5     38.1     2.47    2704   100.0    59000    6912   1.190  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N135 *C                 102.5     40.0     2.59    2697   100.0    59000    7001   1.195  ! Near Maximum !

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Originally Posted by Brad
Whatever shoots best. My 7-08 preferred H4350 over Big Game or Varget.


Brad curious if you had any crony data, guessing that was your 22" Kimber? Temp? Thanks.

I think the 150 BT is a gem in the 7/08......... I see Noz now makes the AB in the 150, should be a nice combo, though at these speeds on impact the 150 BT may be very similar on game. I may be the exception, but would likely prefer the AB to a PT.

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I've had great luck with reloder 15 and h380.

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I use Big Game but my 150 is an eldx. Elk and deer don’t have much time to argue, they’re too busy tipping over. 2790 or so.



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Originally Posted by dye7barrel
What's the go to powder for this combo? Thinking Big Game and H4350.

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Here's what I use! Big Game powder! My 7-08 loves the 150 NBT. Of course it likes RL-16 as well...


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Hodgdon is showing some pretty fast velocities with the new StaBall 6.5 in the 7mm-08. Anyone tried it yet?


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I’ve not chrono’d it but 40.5grs of H4895 shoots really good from my LVSF with the 150 NBT.


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For those using big game, are you using regular or mag primers?

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Originally Posted by KU_Geo
For those using big game, are you using regular or mag primers?


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Originally Posted by KU_Geo
For those using big game, are you using regular or mag primers?


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fed 215 mag with 140s

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My 708 experience with 150s was with the Sierra MKHP, used the suggested accuracy load in the manual and it shot very well. Great accuracy above using newer powders, and solid speeds. The 150s are often overlooked but deserve more use, especially on larger game and/or longer ranges. Good info.

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Originally Posted by Bearcat74

I’ve not chrono’d it but 40.5grs of H4895 shoots really good from my LVSF with the 150 NBT.


40 grains of IMR 4895 kicks ass in my 7-08 pushing the 150 gr. Ballistic Tip..


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Reloader 19 worked well with 140’s in mine.


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