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I know of multiple people in federal law enforcement with stacks of documented disciplinary, conduct and performance issues that were never terminated; or in the unlikely event that they were after years and years, were eventually rehired. These people are some of the worst individuals I’ve ever had the misfortune to either work with personally, or know of through others that did.

I’m talking about people with issues that were obviously mental or moral, or both. But in every case the union would step in and defend them to the end. Also, even in cases that ultimately went to arbitration, the presiding decider would almost always side with the employee citing administrative mistakes, or some such other technicality that really ignored the fact that the guy was a POS, and had no business carrying a gun and badge.

It got so bad that I know of a lot of supervisors who just basically quit writing up these types because you could work yourself to death doing it, only to have them turn it around on you, and later claim harassment on the part of management. Then you’d find yourlsef on the other end defending yourself from the accusations which they would then absolutely take seriously.

God forbid the person in question was female or “person of color” on top of everything else, in which case you can imagine how that would go.

The system is broken.

Why do we call cops?

Another fine example of law enforcement and the thin fat blue line that covers for them

When seconds count they're 10 minutes away. Most cops want us disarmed too.

Because you don't know how to act like a responsible adult. You can't solve your problems and want a governmental 3rd party do it for you.

Its a bodily function for some. Someone parks on a public street in front your house? Call the cops. Someone was mean to you on Facebook? Call the cops. Your neighbors rake their leafs onto your front yard? Call the cops.

Thats why, because adults act like babies.

Hell look at all these grown children that are tattling on their neighbors for not staying indoors.

Yep that retard got his job back. Just like all the worthless teachers that still have a job and certification, just like the ethic-less lawyers that still have their law license. Its everywhere. Corrupt judges still on the bench....the list goes on.

Yep.

Look at what happened to Lon Horiuchi, the infamous Ruby Ridge assassin (FBI sniper). He was promoted by FBI bureaucracy to point man for procuring sniper weapons. And look at how HS Precision sucked up to get those contracts, even featured that creep in their catalog. Bureaucracies often promote problem actors to vindicate/justify their management snafus...

Everyone playing the CYA game, then and now.

I wrote HS off my procurement list. I don't forget.

The FBI is even more disgraced today. They've dug a pretty deep hole.

DF

OK, I'll try to explain it. Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer, but I used to work in this area. Know just enough law to be dangerous!

Think of two separate tracks or layers, each involving due process. As noted, this case probably involved a typical union contract or agreement, with a disciplinary provision, with boiler plate that includes due process, "just cause" and such. No constitutional issue here, statutory labor law.

However, if the employee obtained his job through a formal civil service merit system, and has completed probation, he now has a property right to his employment. Even at a lower level of government, constitutional rights kick in, hence, due process. Not all government employees have this, some are employed at will, mostly management.

For those inclined to get outraged, consider this. In some cases the system allows multiple layers of employment protection such as a civil service hearing, then a multi-step union grievance procedure ending with arbitration, sometimes an appeal to court added in, and if these don't work, a last ditch civil rights claim. "Officer Smith was so traumatized by the unfair discipline by a prejudiced captain/chief out to get him, that he became chronically depressed or got PTSD and required medical treatment, so he demands reasonable accommodation under the Americans with Disabilities Act", translation: he keeps his job; or takes disability retirement. Not all systems allow multiple layers, but some do.

You had better believe that union reps and squad room lawyers know how to play the game.

Paul

Another Government employee who doesn't have to do squat and can't be fired.

Is this a great country, or what?

Another thing people are missing here is that the Broward Coward is a willing participant in this debacle.

If that gutless bastard had even once ounce of human decency, or remorse, he would not be suing for his reinstatement and back pay.

That makes him even lower in my book, than what he was before. Didn't think the bar could be lowered, but it can.

What I want to know is HTF a deputy sheriff makes 138,000 a year.

Could be easy. Overtime gigs, possible vacation buyback, longevity pay, specialty pay, etc.

I deal with arbitrators frequently, doing on-site evaluations of claims to the Better Business Bureau on automotive warranty issues. I'm the guy the arbitrator sends out to try to verify the concern, based on 60+ years as a professional auto mechanic and 40 years of that time as an ASE-certified Master Automotive Technician. My report goes directly to the arbitrator, with a minimum of contact with the parties in the dispute. Sounds fair and reasonable, right? Here's the problem- - - - -most of the arbitrators I deal with are utterly incompetent. They have no more business evaluating a complex auto repair dispute than a hairdresser does passing judgement on a brain surgeon's work. One "arbitrator" I worked with on a problematic 10-speed Ford transmission with an intermittent shifting problem was a marriage counselor! They ask stupid questions that I have no way of answering with any degree of accuracy, and I'm forbidden to discuss the matter with someone who speaks my language- - - -the dealer, technician, or service manager who is usually trying to resolve the problem,. nor the car owner who has spent huge quantities of money on something they're not pleased with.

A lot of the problems are caused by "friction:"- - - - -a monthly payment rubbing up against a warranty after some slick-talking salesman sells somebody a vehicle they can't afford to pay for!
Jerry

That would be appropriate justice.

Not a bad gig.

Draw big bucks, nice pension for life after 20 yrs.

Do yo thing, duck and hide when bullets start flying.

Play the game, get those promotions.

What's not to like.

DF

There's one retired Broward coward that occasionally comes in my favorite LGS. I can't stand the sight of that prick and my bud who runs the shop knows it. He is a pompous ass clown. Parks smack dab in the entrance drive to the shop (and all the other shops in the plaza), right off the main thoroughfare. He thinks my other bud, #2 in the shop, does a great job cleaning and lubricating guns and getting them looking their best, which he does. Everybody knows that. But, he doesn't want to pay for the service. Never fails he'll bring his shotguns in before duck or turkey season and expect Tom to do them up righteous for free. Burns my ass.

I always see an Oh Schit look on my bud's face through the glass when I walk up to the door because he KNOWS I will engage the moron on some level of his incompetence whenever I see that turd.

My first thought, followed closely by biased/corrupt judge

Why in fugg does your buddy allow it?! I’d tell him to GFH?

I don't know. I chalked that up to clumsy wording by the media, but there may be something to it that I am not aware of.

Dryfly, I don't know. Maybe they figure he'll buy something at some point. All I know is I can't stand the sight of that prick. Wish I still had my old F250 I used to haul material around in when I was doing a lot of rehabs. I'd ram his phugkin ass.

There is probably an MOU in place that has all the guidelines for discipline and the termination process. If the county just blast through firing people on the spot, they union is going to win. The county is obligated to "build the gallows" stick by stick to hang someone.
FWIW, I think he should have stayed fired. Wasn't he the one that retired and got his pension?