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+1 Though my wife might argue about the "can afford" part .........................DJ

Ok - I'll do it for him - you are spending that much on a furren rifle with iron sights? Are yiou nutz?

If you want a serious answer let me know
Otherwise I did it for two reasons: 1.) I didn't think my 416 Rigby kicked enough (if it hurts it's workin', right?) and 2.)I didn't think the penetration of the 400 gr bullet on the elk I shot with the 416 lived up to the hype

If you want a serious answer let me know
Otherwise I did it for two reasons: 1.) I didn't think my 416 Rigby kicked enough (if it hurts it's workin', right?) and 2.)I didn't think the penetration of the 400 gr bullet on the elk I shot with the 416 lived up to the hype :grin

I like to buy things once, I find it less expensive that way. I like to buy good stuff as aposed to buying cheap stuff. This dose not mean that the only good scopes around are 1500+ jobs. Nope a Leupold will do to the job and then some with out a hitch. In the end its all in the eye of the beholder. I myself would love to have a drilling, 7 x 57 R double with a 20 or better yet a 16 ga barrel under with a claw mounts for a 6x 42 scope for my white tail hunting. I don't have one thou it would be a pratical thing for this CT deer hunter, since there are also turkeys around on my land during the season. But in order to have somthing like that you would pay more that what some here would be confortable paying, me to. This is not to say I have not looked at F.W. Heym's on the net, so much eye candy.

Looking down on someone with an inexpensive rifle is just as bad as jelously looking up at someone with an expensive one.

Everyone has different means. Just because someone can afford something nicer doesn't mean they are any better than someone who can't. Having to hunt on the cheap doesn't make someone any more noble or practical than someone who spends more. Spending lots doesn't make you any higher class.

It's not about Money! It's about enjoying the company of fine people at the shooting ranges and hunting camps no matter what their income level. A Rich Slob hunter and a Poor Slob hunter are both just Slob hunters. A good hunter is a good hunter rich or poor or wherever they may fall in between.
I think if we all just try and worry about being good ethical hunters and good people to hunt with and be around the other crap just isn't worth worrying about.......................................DJ

+1 DJ,that sums it up perfectly

DJ: Good post. +1.

'cmon guys - it's Friday afternoon. We know you're correct but why'd you have to go and get serious all of a sudden?

I like to mix quantity and quality, inexpensive adds more to the safe for me. But quality never lacks...

+1 good post dj.

well atleast i got a fast response on this thread, my point is i have a friend that buys nothin but nikon monarch scopes and if he doesn't pay at least a grand for a rifle he feels like he didnt get anything useful. he is a handloader and spends lots of time on loads. he shoots as good as i do . but,he cant seem to get a rifle that will out shoot either of my savage 110's with cheap scopes. we can shoot each others guns and my cheap setups still win.
he glass beds ,puts levels on scopes ,pays big money for trigger jobs . it doesnt seem to help .

i've even loaded for his guns ,it just dont matter. here's what i own in good shootin rifles

savage 110 7mm ,weaver bases,tasco rings, simmons 4x12x50
savage 110 22-250 ,weaver bases and rings, tasco 6x24x40
remington 700 ,270win,weaver rings and bases,swift 4x12x40
tikka t3 270win,tikka rings ,swift 4x12x40
savage 12 22-250, weaver bases ,tasco rings, swift 8x32x50


all of these setups,with handloads are well under 1 inch groupers at 100yds

There might be a reason...........

Dude, you said a mouth full!

srw,

IF I were inclined to argue with you and tell you what I think is the correct equipment...which I'm not ...I couldn't really quibble over your sticks....but your glass...again...to each his own.

What caliber are you getting? I have two good friends that have doubles - one a 470 Nitro Chapuis and one a 500 Nitro Searcy. Both are fun as hell to shoot - although both those guys shoot them much better than I do. (btw - the 470 Nitro is about the same recoil as my 416 Remington)

Jeff

As DJ Paintless stated above:

My best hunting buddy is a trophy hunter. He has more trophies hanging on his wall than anybody I know. He comes home from South Texas with a 160+ B&C buck every year. He has several Gold Medal Axis trophies, all over 33". He shot them all with a Remington 700 that was given to him and chambered in 30-06. He saved his money for four years and had it stocked with a Brown Precision. He saved another 8 years and scope it with a Swarovski. Only one of his critters was whacked with the Swarovski. Prior scope was a lowly K-Mart Blue Light Special: 3-9x Leupold Gold Ring as they were known then.

Personally I DESPISE 30-06's.

I own a Weatherby Mark V chambered in 7 Wby. It has been Cera-Koated, Swarovski mounted & custom 20 oz stock installed. I have $2400 in this rig and it shoots .400" groups. I know a multitude of people whose cheaper rifles shoot just as good or better. My gun doesn't perform any better than most but IT IS WHAT I WANTED and so I TREATED myself to it. Years back I would never have dreamed of spending $1000 on a rifle much less a scope too. But, I always knew that if I ever bought the rifle I really wanted and had the means to do so, it would be a Weatherby.

Shoot what you want, pay what you want but the type &/or cost of the rifle you tote does not your character state.

Utah: Uh, sorry, musta lost my mind........ Gimme time and I'll revert to normal.

280: Are wives REALLY allowed to read what we post here??!! Time for a restraining order.......I thought this was off-limits to wives????

+1

I think you will find that good hunters and good marksman can bring game home every year no mattter what they shoot. Be it an old Springfield Trapdoor, to the newest, most modern whiz bang shoot'em at two miles rifle. Either topped with iron sights to a $2000 piece of glass. These guys just use it as a tool. Some guys just like the look and feel of a finely crafted pieced of machinery. Be it a firearm or anything else. Some guys need a more utilitarian firearm that has all stainlees metal,and a synthetic stock for those wet climates.

Then there are the guys that just don't get it and never will. They never learned to hunt or place a bullet where it should go and keep buying more and more technical advanced fireearms in the hopes that it will serve as crutch to make them better hunters and shooters