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I believe my '14 is from Kalifornia

nope

TX as per door tag

Unfortunately, like most of the forum members here, she suffers from gout, diabetes, rhematoid arthritis, and sleep apnea, so.......no.

I know that American based companies are supporting this nations economy better than the companies that are not based in this country, without a doubt. To me, it doesn't matter how good they are...they aren't American and since I make my money here, I spend my money here whenever I can. Bragging about sending American dollars to a foreign land is like bragging about wetting the bed. And for the record my trucks are made in America.

The Nissan is made in Tennessee. Non union.

Its probably a good thing that Toyota doesn't make a 3/4 ton or 1 ton pick up. Because if they did, not many people would ever buy a Ford, GM or Ram gasoline powered HD pick up.

I’ve had two Tundras, an ‘07 and a ‘10. For the most part they were reliable but both of them had issues with the emissions system air injection pumps and air injection valves. The ‘07was covered under warranty but the ‘10 was outside the warranty and it is a very expensive fix, so I traded it in on a new F150.

The ‘07 had the 4.7 V8 and the ‘10 had the 5.7 Other than the emissions issues, both were rock solid reliable and burned no oil between changes up to the 185,000 miles where I traded them in. Both got pretty abysmal fuel milage. The 4.7/got about 16 mpg and the 5.7 averaged about 14.7 for a mix of probably 25% in town and 75% highway. Both had pretty good power but liked to rev to get that power under a load.

I’ve only put about 5000 miles on the F150 and it is the first Ford truck I’ve owned. It has the 3.5 Ecoboost and I knew the advertised performance numbers were better than the 5.7 Tundra’s but I was skeptical until I drove one. I just didn’t think they could get that much torque out a little bitty V6. I was happily mistaken. The 3.5 ecoboost would absolutey embarrass my 5.7 Tundra. Very noticeable increase in seat of the pants feel during acceleration and has much more torque much lower in the RPM band.

My F150 also gets substantially better fuel milage, averaging 19.2 mpg for the 5200 miles I’ve put on it so far.

So far, I prefer the F150. The only thing the Tundra might have over it is long term reliability but I don’t know yet. I’ll let you know in 100,000 miles or so.

John

This...I had the same problem with my Tundra 2013......Smoked and shook like a diesel when I started it....Took it in 5 times to get fixed ...Finally gave up...My 2016 F150 3.5 EB has been flawless 55000 on the clock so far....

Been my experience as well, at least here in Texas.

John

Exactly.

Like talking to a brick wall though sometimes. Yes, they employ U.S. workers, that's great. Even better when they are non-union. But ultimately where to the profits go? Who owns the company? I try not to support foreign companies when I can.

Others' mileage may vary.

Bought an 05 4.0/6spd new and drove it 10 years and 200K, had a leaking pinion seal, cam tensioners and the fuse box replaced under warranty.

I did cam chains and tensioners myself around 195K over a weekend.

I would buy another Frontier if I wanted to downsize from my 2010 2500HD 6.0/6L90 I bought in 2015 with 82K miles.

I would give a Taco a try after owning a 79 SR5 18R back in the 80's, beat it to hell and it always go me there.

IMO depends on what you want to do with it. I have owned pickups all my life. I no longer pull an RV so do not need a diesel or 3/4 ton. I bought a 2018 GMC Sierra last year with the 5.3 motor and love it. 21-22 MPG highway 16-17 intown all day. Rides great. I looked at the Toyota Tundra. Biggest drawback is it only comes with .391 gears and gas milage is 17-18 max on a good day. They have not upgraded to the 8 or 10 speed trannies either. Good for pulling but how often will you need that. The new Canyon 3 cylinder diesel gets great milage if you are not needing a fullsize.

John, I bet you have good long term luck with that Ford. My dad put 335k on an '03 Ford, and now has 254k on a 2010 model. My uncle in Louisiana has just turned 210k in his 3.5 EcoBoost 4x4. They have had no problems other than normal wear and tear maintenance. I bet you really enjoy it.

We've had nothing but good luck with Ram trucks since 2011, both gas and diesel. Market share speaks for itself, Dodge lagged way behind, Ram has took a good chunk of the market front GM and Ford.

Amen to all of that. My current 2019 GMC Sierra replaced the '14 Tundra and I'm really liking it so far. Only 16,500 on the GMC, but the tripometer says avg of 18.1 overall.

Good thread. I'll be truck buying this summer/fall/winter...

I lost my loyalty to American vehicles years ago. I grew up in Chamblee, a small town n. side of Atlanta. Just 3 miles from my high school was the giant GM plant, GM Assembly Plant Doraville. Half the guys at Chamblee had an uncle, or father who worked there. Huge plant probably 5,000 employees. Probably more than that.

I graduated in June of '68 and my buddy Jeff and I got jobs working as brick mason's helpers. We worked ourselves to death in the hot Georgia sun, 10 hours a day hauling brick and mortar. $2.25 an hour and that was great pay!

In July we ran into our buddy from the football team, Ricky H. Ricky's uncle worked at the GM plant and got him a job. He worked night shift, pulling parts for $5.45 an hour plus benefits. Construction workers got no benefits. Plus we didn't work if it was raining. Ricky was earning a pay to support a family. And Ricky was laughing about how easy it was.

Jeff and I ran into Ricky in August and he said he had gotten in trouble at the plant. And I said, "Well no wonder you said you were goofing off."
And Ricky said, "No, I got in trouble for working too hard! The union guy told me, no matter how much pull my uncle had I was going to be out the door if I didn't take it easy. He told me to get up on the second floor about 2 am where the pallets were stored, and take a nap from 2 am until 4 am or my ass was grass."

I knew then, something was rotten in Denmark.
In 1983, I was at a party in central Georgia, one of the guests was a guy from Atlanta named Jeff. He was working as a computer guy at GM Assembly Plant Doraville.
And he told, me the union workers all went out into the parking lot at noon for lunch and drank booze. He said management got fed up with having to pick up all the Budweiser and Jack Daniels bottles in the parking lot, so they put two 55 gallon drums at the entrance, so when the guys came back from lunch drunk they could throw their bottles in the trash. I told Jeff "Bulls***!! No Way that is happening."

Yet Jeff swore it was true. Met Jeff at a party a year later and he told the same story. I came to believe it was true, the union was so strong, it protected drunk workers at lunch.

Fifteen years ago, GM Assembly Plant Doraville closed down. And it got bulldozed. And I believe it was because of this fantastic corruption because of the unions.

So, I lost all affection for American built vehicles and their screwed up corrupt unions. I prefer to buy non union vehicles and I like it that Nissan is a non union shop in Tennessee. Profits go to Japan? Oh well the world is not perfect. Lots of American workers at the Nissan plants in Tennessee are making real good money.
I don't want to support the corrupt and rotten UAW.

I love my GMC Sierra 2500HD Duramax. Lots of power, torque and 25 mpg on the highway.

JD338

Yep maybe after hitting the reset while going down hill on a 55 mph road and that would still be stretching it. GM Duramax looks good and rides better when the wife takes it grocery shopping, even then she needs to be careful not to overload it. But seeing how most Duramax trucks are short bed girls truck overloading might not be an issue.

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