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Originally Posted by devnull
... The point of this thread isn't about trades and blue collar vs. white collar. It's about having the interest to learn something outside of your normal skill set and having the gumption to try something new. I'm not recommending someone become a GI specialist as Wabigoon mentioned but to use tools are their disposal to make attempts at learning something new. I see it as those that have a can do attitude and others that are just plain lazy. Oh yeah, I don't always change my own oil in the car. However, I've done it in the past and have the knowledge based on past experience....Some have never attempted it as one example.


While not pitting blue collar against white collar, this thread does exhibit the usual trend of placing manual skills above other skills. Manual skills are very valuable, as are (for want of a better term) non-manual skills. I believe that both are valuable and the world is a better place for having people who are skilled in both areas. Seems to me that there is much more snobbishness (again, for want of a better word) on the part of the manual skills side than on the non-manual skills side. If you don't agree with that assessment, please go back and read through the whole thread. Whichever skill set (manual or non-manual) in which a person is most comfortable, I think that it would benefit him to branch out and try other things both inside and outside of that skill set.


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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
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I've got to ask a question here....This has been on my mind for some time as I'm dumbfounded by the pussification of American men. How many of you don't have the mechanical aptitude to change your own oil in a piece of machinery or learn some new skill? The skill can be anything from carpentry, welding, reloading, etc. I know of some men that have no aptitude for learning for themselves and just lean on other. I just don't get it....

Mom and Dad always taught me to learn it myself if I didn't know how to do it. This seems to be a lost art anymore. To me, it's not a question of not having the money, it's about the journey of life and learning something new.
Despite all the hollering from many about "dirty jobs" that pay a lot...the oil patch comes immediately to mind as something that pays relatively high wages for blue collar skills, what jobs pay the most? Mechanicking, oil patch, carpenter, etc. pay relatively high wages until they don't. Many require quite a bit of strength as well as skills and though the skills may or may not diminish, the strength always does. Unless you can move up into management or make a helluva lot more than most and bank it away, you are screwed when you get older. The jobs that pay the most are white collar and require college, not trades. Plumbing and electric, stuff like that...always have been in demand in the modern world and pay fairly well if you can avoid getting hurt.

Stuff that paid well and allowed you to have a modicum of being your own boss, like doctors and vets...even those have been herded into working for somebody else instead of yourself. We are seeing right now what the .gov and its owners think of small and medium businessmen.

All that said, if you don't make much money at your day job, you can save a lot by just being handy and smart enough to figure stuff out on your own.

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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Different people have aptitudes for different skills.


Good way to put it.


True. Some people are f.ucking idiots also.


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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Different people have aptitudes for different skills.


Good way to put it.


True. Some people are f.ucking idiots also.


Admitting you have a problem is the first step. Congratulations.

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Reminds me of the butcher your own steer thread. Yeah, right - every real man should be able to process a beef and have it look like it just came from the meat market.


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Another campfire dick measuring contest.


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There is a legit gripe with a guy who lets his girlfriend change the battery in his Jeep because she doesn’t want him to pay a shop to do it. It happened to my youngest, and she dumped his sorry azz. She is still looking for a serious guy, because, as she told me, she wants a man who can fix and build things. Kid was helping me on the roof at 11, butchering chickens at 12(as well as helping with the processing on hogs, deer and cattle), learned to clean her own drains at thirteen. Damn long hair clogs them quick, and I did it once, made her watch, and she got to do it after that. Girl can fix more stuff than most of the guys she has dated and works in the operating room at the local hospital. The country is in a pitiful place, fellas.

Big problem is most folks these days see learning as work. And work as something to be avoided. Learning is opportunity. I never turned down a chance to learn something, even if it was dangerous or dirty. Had a lot of jobs, a decent amount of schooling, and done things a lot of folks have to pay through the nose to learn. Never spent much time unemployed, far more time trying to keep up with what people were asking for. Only thing ever held me back was finding help that wanted to work and was willing to learn.

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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Another campfire dick measuring contest.


That leaves you out.

Do you have to take a dump in every thread you enter outside of the Savage subforum?


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Originally Posted by NVhntr
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Another campfire dick measuring contest.


That leaves you out.

Do you have to take a dump in every thread you enter outside of the Savage subforum?


If I want to I sure will.

Thanks for caring.


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Originally Posted by renegade50
I bet I can still roll a excellent J bar.....
Many just cant..
Fumble fingers and schit, mostly fancy looking pipe smokers
overcompensating for their lack of doobie rolling skills.


Like riding a bike ....
Once ya learn ya never forget.


I haven't "inhaled" in over 30 years but know I can still twist one.

I occasionally borrow the tabacky and a paper from a friend just to keep in practice. Don't smoke them, just hand them back.

I can still roll backwards too.

It's like riding a bike.


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Stupid premise. Did you ever consider there are skills that you don't possess, and haven't had the fortitude to learn them? It cuts both ways.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Fugging doped up Boomers.....

Not no more bro.

Not no mo'


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Know of a couple men in there mid 60’s who lost their wives to illness recently. Neither can cook, handle a checking account or figure out how to run a household...

The simplest of tasks, going to a grocery store gave them both worries...No shît.

Women are great, but if you can’t manage the basics - feeding yourself. Then you’re an idiot.

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Originally Posted by Beaver10
Know of a couple men in there mid 60’s who lost their wives to illness recently. Neither can cook, handle a checking account or figure out how to run a household...

The simplest of tasks, going to a grocery store gave them both worries...No shît.

Women are great, but if you can’t manage the basics - feeding yourself. Then you’re an idiot.

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Pop tarts

Hot pockets

Pizza rolls

all three meals of the day...................covered.

Maybe change it up a bit with some Vee ainy sausages and some them Sketti-oes


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Originally Posted by Valsdad


Pop tarts

Hot pockets

Pizza rolls

all three meals of the day...................covered.

Maybe change it up a bit with some Vee ainy sausages and some them Sketti-oes


You been hanging with Slummy??


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Originally Posted by Paul39
How about the blue collar guy who becomes a self-taught historian?

Does he also get points for learning something outside his skill set?

Paul


You'll meet a LOT of guys like that in reenacting.

Applies to every era but Civil War reenactors immediately come to mind.


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Pop tarts

Hot pockets

Pizza rolls

all three meals of the day...................covered.

Maybe change it up a bit with some Vee ainy sausages and some them Sketti-oes


You been hanging with Slummy??



Fugg no, I don't eat that crap. I can cook. I even post pics in the food threads at times.

Well, perhaps the occasional Pop tart.........I have a sweet tooth. And they are convenient. I think the last one I had was on a tug, and I haven't been on a boat since summer '17.

Hot pockets suck, mystery meat filled into some sort of bad dough.

Pizza rolls???? My Sicilian grandpa would come out of his grave and travel 3000 miles to kick my ass.


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In it is death and all you seek
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Originally Posted by Valsdad



Fugg no, I don't eat that crap. I can cook. I even post pics in the food threads at times.

Well, perhaps the occasional Pop tart.........I have a sweet tooth. And they are convenient. I think the last one I had was on a tug, and I haven't been on a boat since summer '17.

Hot pockets suck, mystery meat filled into some sort of bad dough.

Pizza rolls???? My Sicilian grandpa would come out of his grave and travel 3000 miles to kick my ass.




I was kidding, of course. Can't blame a guy for an occasional pop-tart. I like the little gem chocolate donuts from the gas station, LOL.

For me, life is too short to eat crap food. I've got 2 big octopus legs I am sous vide'ing tomorrow that get sliced and goes into a lightly dressed celery leaf salad with marinated gigante beans and green olives. One of may favorite appetizers (discovered at "Echo and Rig" in Henderson, NV)


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You despair, repeatedly, constantly! daily basis?
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Sack up, despire ninny.

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Leave out them beans and I'd be right over.

I love octopus.


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In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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