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Re: Men who can't do for themselves [Re: devnull] #14894320 05/19/20
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Things change as to what a guy can "do nowadays", vs decades ago....

When a car tuneup was just points, plugs, rotor and condenser and a timing light, almost anybody could learn how to do that...

Nowadays, people don't have the ability to fully maintain their own car because of all the sophisticate diagnostic equipment needed $$$$$$$ in order to work with the computers/controllers.

That's why the work I do nowadays is
hunting
fishing
crabbing
prawning
golfing
boating

The other stuff I'll just buy or pay for the service.


“Even if you’re on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there.”
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Re: Men who can't do for themselves [Re: devnull] #14894324 05/19/20
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Love that chit. I've found that sous vide low and long followed by a REALLY hot char makes it the most *tender*, smokey, charry (if that's a word) octopus - you can cut through it with a folk.

Now I am hungry.

Re: Men who can't do for themselves [Re: devnull] #14894622 05/20/20
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Thomas Jefferson was once asked that since he believed a citizen had a right to be educated,at public expense, in useful knowledge—what constituted ‘useful knowledge’.
Jefferson replied that ‘useful knowledge’ consisted of 5 things
1) a Man should know how to build his own house.
2) a Man should know how to build his own boat
3) a Man should know how to plant and harvest his own vegetables and grain.
4) a Man should know how to raise livestock and butcher same
5) a Man should know how to hunt and fish

Re: Men who can't do for themselves [Re: devnull] #14894663 05/20/20
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my latest new endeavors. I started making homemade bread 3 yrs ago. We went about 2 years without buying any bread at all. Also make homemade pasta that is awesome.

Bought a lathe and many other tools and make bowls, vases, and other stuff. Also make some tables occasionally.

Re: Men who can't do for themselves [Re: devnull] #14894679 05/20/20
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I care infinitely more whether a man has character than if he has particular skills. I don't have much use for a friend who can fix his own car if he isn't honest. If I raise my son to be able to do everything for himself, but he is a bully or a liar, then I will have failed.

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Re: Men who can't do for themselves [Re: devnull] #14894681 05/20/20
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A scan tool is not expensive vs the price of a new car.

2 to 4 thousand compared to 30,000 dollars for the car?

What did a VAT 40 used to cost compared to a 77 Caprice?

Re: Men who can't do for themselves [Re: devnull] #14894717 05/20/20
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I told my kids and grandkids to go to school and get a great job. Pay some other poor bastard to do the hard labor. Playing with cars and lumber is way better than having to do it. Ed k

Re: Men who can't do for themselves [Re: colorado87] #14894772 05/20/20
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Originally Posted by colorado87
I care infinitely more whether a man has character than if he has particular skills. I don't have much use for a friend who can fix his own car if he isn't honest. If I raise my son to be able to do everything for himself, but he is a bully or a liar, then I will have failed.


That is a great post!


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Re: Men who can't do for themselves [Re: colorado87] #14894786 05/20/20
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Originally Posted by colorado87
I care infinitely more whether a man has character than if he has particular skills. I don't have much use for a friend who can fix his own car if he isn't honest. If I raise my son to be able to do everything for himself, but he is a bully or a liar, then I will have failed.


I feel the same way!

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Skills you need have changed. Build your own house, butcher your own food? If you live in a city, good luck with that.

Many of the "old" skills that were required were replaced by businesses. Building a house for example. Hunting/fishing replaced by food industry.

there are however some basic things you should know how to do to just "live":

- Cook basic food.
- Clean
- Laundry
- Treat your family right and raise good kids

When it comes to change a tire, YES, but as some pointed out, some new cars don't even have a spare. I must have married a good woman, she taught our sons to change a tire, when they were out and got a flat. Rather than call me, she taught our boys to change a tire.

Change oil? Easy to do, but then what do you do with the oil? Many places you can't do anything with it as it's considered hazardous waste.

When it comes to engine repair, the need has shrunk, cars run essentially FOREVER compared to past generations. Routine maintenance, can be had cheap and you have to figure if it's worth your time. I did repairs in college, then when married, then kids came along and between not having the time and things taking longer than I thought because of rusted/stuck parts, the frustration level grew and the desire to just pay someone grew. I did teach kids to do the maintenance, but they quickly ran into the "what do I do with old oil, transmission fluid, break fluid etc". When we do have a place to take it, it's worth it. My 23 year old son came home depressed, Honda wanted about $400 to do routine "required" fluid replacements. I asked him if he had $100 and an hour. So the next weekend we were under his car doing oil, transmission and break fluids. He was shocked how easy it was. Told him if you have the time and the ability (tools and disposal), all this can be found on YouTube.

Equally important skills these days:
- Finding things on the internet
- remove virus from computer
- Basic IT for backups to save family photos etc

for those "old school" gear heads, can you swap out hard disk, increase computer memory, trouble shoot an internet connection?

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Re: Men who can't do for themselves [Re: 5sdad] #14894911 05/20/20
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Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by colorado87
I care infinitely more whether a man has character than if he has particular skills. I don't have much use for a friend who can fix his own car if he isn't honest. If I raise my son to be able to do everything for himself, but he is a bully or a liar, then I will have failed.


That is a great post!

Sure is. Thanks, John.

Paul

Re: Men who can't do for themselves [Re: Valsdad] #14894934 05/20/20
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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by renegade50
I bet I can still roll a excellent J bar.....
Many just cant..
Fumble fingers and schit, mostly fancy looking pipe smokers
overcompensating for their lack of doobie rolling skills.


Like riding a bike ....
Once ya learn ya never forget.


I haven't "inhaled" in over 30 years but know I can still twist one.

I occasionally borrow the tabacky and a paper from a friend just to keep in practice. Don't smoke them, just hand them back.

I can still roll backwards too.

It's like riding a bike.

July 11 , 1983 for me.
Can still twist one up.
Just like the tobacco example you stated.


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Re: Men who can't do for themselves [Re: Valsdad] #14894942 05/20/20
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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Fugging doped up Boomers.....

Not no more bro.

Not no mo'

JC just mad cause he didnt grow up in the late 60,s thru early 80,s.
He woulda been a party dog right their with any of us!!!


Lol!!!


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Re: Men who can't do for themselves [Re: renegade50] #14894946 05/20/20
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Bet you be rolling them pregnant lookin spliffs. :

Re: Men who can't do for themselves [Re: renegade50] #14894954 05/20/20
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Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Fugging doped up Boomers.....

Not no more bro.

Not no mo'

JC just mad cause he didnt grow up in the late 60,s thru early 80,s.
He woulda been a party dog right their with any of us!!!


Lol!!!

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If you’re able to follow instructions, you can go on the internet and figure out how to do about anything from changing a tire to building a nuclear reactor. Want to make some dish you liked at a restaurant? Look it up. Want to figure out what’s causing the noise in your central heating? Look it up. Want to figure out how to wire LED turn signals so they won’t blink too fast and pull cam bearings out of an 07 Dyna? It’s all there. I wish it had been that easy back in HS when I was laid out in the driveway underneath a 73 F250 trying to stab a 4 speed tranny back in and wondering where the 2 extra bolts were supposed to go.

Re: Men who can't do for themselves [Re: Valsdad] #14894966 05/20/20
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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by duck911
Originally Posted by Valsdad


Pop tarts

Hot pockets

Pizza rolls

all three meals of the day...................covered.

Maybe change it up a bit with some Vee ainy sausages and some them Sketti-oes


You been hanging with Slummy??



Fugg no, I don't eat that crap. I can cook. I even post pics in the food threads at times.

Well, perhaps the occasional Pop tart.........I have a sweet tooth. And they are convenient. I think the last one I had was on a tug, and I haven't been on a boat since summer '17.

Hot pockets suck, mystery meat filled into some sort of bad dough.

Pizza rolls???? My Sicilian grandpa would come out of his grave and travel 3000 miles to kick my ass.


No he wouldnt....
He would try a couple of em I bet outta a sense of curiosity.
Then experiment and make his own improved version.

LOL!!!

Palermo is pretty cool.
Spent 3 months their.
But their pizza sucks....
It really does......
I have ate pizza all over this planet.
The ones in Palermo were bad dude, I mean real bad.

Made German made pizza look good. crazy

Only thing worse is arab pizza with ground goat meat paste smeared on flat bread with funky cheese from god knows what sprinkled on it.
Quick flash bake back in the outdoor stone oven.
Bon afuggingpetite......

Barf.............


Lol!!!


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Re: Men who can't do for themselves [Re: slumlord] #14894973 05/20/20
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Originally Posted by slumlord
Bet you be rolling them pregnant lookin spliffs. :

Nice and even dude
Nice and even...
Lol!!!

Skills.....


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Re: Men who can't do for themselves [Re: Paul39] #14894989 05/20/20
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Originally Posted by Paul39
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Different people have aptitudes for different skills.

Very true.

After your doctor has put in a long day at the clinic, do you want him spending whatever spare time he may have reading to keep up with the latest research or techniques, or out in his shop making or fixing stuff, especially when he can afford to pay somebody who needs the work to do it?


I want him in his shop, or in the garden growing tasty produce, or at the range shooting, so he can hit his birds or big game, or whatever. The worst docs I've seen are just that. Docs. No concept of life and living. Nothing to decompress. Life has to balance. You can't be the best at anything unless you balance with other things.



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Re: Men who can't do for themselves [Re: slumlord] #14894992 05/20/20
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Originally Posted by slumlord
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Fugging doped up Boomers.....

Not no more bro.

Not no mo'

JC just mad cause he didnt grow up in the late 60,s thru early 80,s.
He woulda been a party dog right their with any of us!!!


Lol!!!

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laugh laugh laugh



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