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I've got a couple rifles with Leupolds that will damn near shoot in the same hole. Leupold isn't the only scope that can have problems. But I've found that Leupold and Nikon for reasonable priced scopes shoot more consistent for my money. I cannot afford a thousand dollar scope. I've got one that cost me $800 and that was at my gun smith's cost. He made about $1000 off me for the rifle build the scope went on. Most of my scopes cost $300-$400 and I'm pushing it to spend that. If you can afford it, good for you, but I bet I killed as many deer through the years with my ratty old Nikons and Leupolds.
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Why, is that Burns in the pic?
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Living rent free. Makes me smile. Build accurate rifles in case your scope sucks, said nobody ever. There is a Scientifically proven correlation between those who have accurate rifles and those who don't have Leupold Derangement Syndrome. Just Sayin, Science. I'm sure that you know in general that Leupold have tracking issues and that the Mark4 on Miss America had tracking issues
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There is a Scientifically proven correlation between those who have accurate rifles and those who don't have Leupold Derangement Syndrome.
Just Sayin, Science.
I'm sure that you know in general that Leupold have tracking issues and that the Mark4 on Miss America had tracking issues Miss A and that MK4 tracked perfectly when I was running the gun. Just Sayin.
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Indeed.That pic is just ghey.
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There is a Scientifically proven correlation between those who have accurate rifles and those who don't have Leupold Derangement Syndrome.
Just Sayin, Science.
I'm sure that you know in general that Leupold have tracking issues and that the Mark4 on Miss America had tracking issues Miss A and that MK4 tracked perfectly when I was running the gun. Just Sayin. That's not what Ross said, he said he had to run it past and then back down Just saying
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[quote=JohnBurns] Miss A and that MK4 tracked perfectly when I was running the gun. Just Sayin. That's not what Ross said, he said he had to run it past and then back down Just saying Those that push the erector into position do have much better results than those that those that hope it follows, regardless of optic branding. Much the same as skilled machinists. Always push the tool point into position and always push the erector into position. It's not rocket surgery or brain science. Just Sayin.
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[quote=JohnBurns] Miss A and that MK4 tracked perfectly when I was running the gun. Just Sayin. That's not what Ross said, he said he had to run it past and then back down Just saying Those that push the erector into position do have much better results than those that those that hope it follows, regardless of optic branding. Much the same as skilled machinists. Always push the tool point into position and always push the erector into position. It's not rocket surgery or brain science. Just Sayin. He also said that NF tracked much better Just saying
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Ross also was a big Burris Optic proponent. Just Sayin.
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I'm thinking of buying a VX-5HD 3-15x44 and getting a custom turret cut. Somewhere along the way, I remember reading negative comments about Leupolds not tracking well. Any info on this to pass along? Thanks in advance. I've never had a problem with Leupold tracking, but I'm sure some have. YMMV.
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Ross also was a big Burris Optic proponent. Just Sayin. NF, S&B, TRACT, MEOPTA, SWAROVSKI, ZEIS, etc are some of the brands that you don't need some fickle combinatin to get them to track perfectly. Make needed correction and it is correct each and every time. I'm sure tha Leupold could make a scope to adjust properly but far too many have problems and that is a fact
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Ross also was a big Burris Optic proponent. Just Sayin. NF, S&B, TRACT, MEOPTA, SWAROVSKI, ZEIS, etc are some of the brands that you don't need some fickle combinatin to get them to track perfectly. Make needed correction and it is correct each and every time. I'm sure tha Leupold could make a scope to adjust properly but far too many have problems and that is a fact Well I don't have any issues with tracking and Leupold can sell more optics than they can make so if you need something else feel free to spend your dollars there.
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If you can not afford Schmidt and Bender, Swarovski then shoot Leupold.
Stop believing all.this crap posted by paid Leupold Haters.....why a hunter should give a damn about tracking is beyond me.
Screw buying any scope made in Japan the Phillipines or China....
I would go to glued on wooden popcicle sticks for iron sites before I put any of that crap on a gun I own.
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Screw buying any scope made in Japan the Phillipines or China…..
You do know that Leupold actually only manufactures their own scope bodies and not much else right? Almost all of their glass and small parts are bought from Asian suppliers under contract (most of their glad is/was Nikon made). So yeah although it’s physically assembled in ORE, the fact that it’s mostly foreign parts means calling it US made is pretty sketchy at best.
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No doubt Leupold has taken a wrong track....
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