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Sorry, fellas. I wanted a 100 page thread, and knew asking that question would get it for me. Hated to stoop to drawing the troll from under his bridge, and the troll chasers from their villages, but that seemed the fastest way to 100 pages...😂

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We should probably look at what the actual people on the North Slope make.

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Originally Posted by GRIZZ
Explain why it matters.

I keep hearing how much he makes or doesn't make so I thought that I would just look and see how much people up there make. I have a couple of friends who worked up there but they retired last year. With oil going under $0 the demand is going to keep going down. Our gasoline just went under $3.00 a gallon if you can believe that. Times are changing.

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Originally Posted by 14Homer
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Explain why it matters.

I keep hearing how much he makes or doesn't make so I thought that I would just look and see how much people up there make. I have a couple of friends who worked up there but they retired last year. With oil going under $0 the demand is going to keep going down. Our gasoline just went under $3.00 a gallon if you can believe that. Times are changing.


$1.37 a gallon here and very few folks on the road and I work in Atlanta.


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Explain why it matters.

I keep hearing how much he makes or doesn't make so I thought that I would just look and see how much people up there make. I have a couple of friends who worked up there but they retired last year. With oil going under $0 the demand is going to keep going down. Our gasoline just went under $3.00 a gallon if you can believe that. Times are changing.


$1.37 a gallon here and very few folks on the road and I work in Atlanta.

$2.96 here. Money doesn’t go as far here. And you can’t get powder, primers, or cartridges by mail. Your money doesn’t go as far here. Many of the people who work on the slope live in the lower 48.

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What the hell do I know about ballistics and such. Every deer I shot (almost every deer) was with a 20 gauge double barrel and punkin' balls. I did kill one with a .357. All under 50 yards. Sometimes I just crack me up.

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I don't think I'd ever buy another 308. Maybe another 30-06 or 270 for my "magnum" laugh. Or a Swede, 7x57 or 7-08 for something different.

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Originally Posted by ofelas
I don't spend enough time on online forums perhaps, given my 90 odd posts in 10 years; but there was absolutely zero idiotic babble in the PMs he replied to me on.

Who would i have gotten better information from, considering the non replies to my simple/humble PMs?

Or perhaps I'm just not worthy enough to be replied to by the gurus?



I always felt the quality of the post was far more important than post count. Every now and then you luck out and find someone that is impressive with both. Other times, not so much. How many posts did Safariman have?

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Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
I get the fascination with high BC heavy bullets for long range shooting. I get the attraction of smaller cartridges with less recoil. What I don’t get is when a guy uses a rifle for hunting, hunts an area where shots are under 500 yards and sometimes well under that, he feels the need to go to a smaller bore for less recoil and still wants high BC bullets. What is wrong with a .308 with a 130 or even 110 TTSX, or a 125 NBT or Accubond? The larger bore gets more velocity for the weight of the bullet, and thus should shoot flatter and hit harder inside 4-500 yards. Recoil is reduced, trajectory is flattened, and energy is increased.

So why sell a 308 to get a 243 or similar? Why not simply load lightweight bullets in the 308 and roll on? Asking this mostly out of simple curiosity after hearing guys at the LGS trading into smaller bore rifles to get higher BC and less recoil, here where a shot over 300 yards is a rarity. Is there.a good reason for this, or is it just loonyism?

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Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Let me clarify. This is occurring in southern MO. Low elevation, wooded hills and pastures. Shots over 300 yards are rare, 1-200 is most common, 500 is hard to find. Most of my deer have been killed at under 50 yards, many under half that. I use a 308 for the rare occasion I see a deer across a pasture. Farthest shot I have ever had presented here was at 400. The deer died right there. I do use a .223 for coyotes and other vermin. What I am talking about is guys hunting WT deer with small bore rifles and wanting high BC bullets, and trading 308’s and 270’s off at a loss to:do it.

Others hunt differently, and I understand people have their own reasons for choosing a rifle and cartridge. What I am trying to ask is if I am missing some factor in the decision to move to smaller caliber rifles with a stated desire to use high BC bullets in this environment. Seeing impacts in the scope has been mentioned, as well as sectional density. Both those make sense, although I feel the SD argument is somewhat moot when using monos like the TTSX.

To me, the attraction of high BC bullets is purely for long range use, target shooting and hunting past 400 yards or so. Out west and in the croplands, this makes sense if one plans to shoot that far. Where I am, it works fine, but the utility of it is not realized. I usually opt for a load that allows me to point and shoot to 300 and hold over to 400, and this covers every shot I can possibly see in my area. Wondering what I am missing, if anything. I am leaning toward the idea that it’s just guys wanting something different, but the frequency of it got me to wondering if there was something I had missed,



You are missing the chance to buy something smaller with a higher BC just to goober with. You don't need it but need ain't got nothing to do with it. grin Where the guys that are trading off good rifles are going wrong is that they are getting rid of good rifles (at a loss) to buy more rifles.They need to just buy more rifles. grin Nothing wrong with playing the smaller bore higher BC game Less recoil ain't a bad gig either. Rifle Looneyism can easily be compared to a golf bag the more (and different) clubs in it the more versatile (and maybe fun) it can be....If they enjoy it and are having fun with it power to them The experience is good for them...


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Originally Posted by ofelas
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https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/10791439/1

There are several other threads. This one was the final nail in the coffin. Although it seems after a 5 year break, he has started posting again.

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Originally Posted by DollarShort
I don't think I'd ever buy another 308. Maybe another 30-06 or 270 for my "magnum" laugh. Or a Swede, 7x57 or 7-08 for something different.


7mm-08 is skookum.




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