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Absolutely spot on! I agree with you sir.

HILARIOUS...as you Do NOTHING Kchunts spend all hours on your ChiCom phones/'puters. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Oooopsie!





You Brokedick Whiners are a HOOT! Hint.

Bless your hearts for Trying.

Hint.

LAUGHING.................

Had one of my last leupolds [bleep] the bed today.

Dialed 3 moa right and two moa down to zero. Went 4 moa right and 1 moa up and group size doubled.

Yeah, don't say that. It don't fit into my worldview of Leupold scopes.

Did you tap on the scope with the handle of screwdriver to set the erector system? This is a little known secret, for success with Leupos. It should be in the owner's manual, but Leupo reserves it for only the best customers.

So what American made electronic device are you posting from?

Is this Big Stick guy mentally retarded or is the way he posts some kind of troll persona that he sadly thinks is cool or humorous? Trying to read one of his posts is like reading something a dyslexic bipolar crackhead would scribble on the sidewalk in chalk after being shot up with 100 milligrams of thorazine and hit in the head with a shovel.

I’m a set it and forget it hunter. I’m going to keep buying Leupold products as I’ve never had an issue. I’ve probably owned 30 or more.

I own 3 Leupold scopes. Never had a problem with them. I also have Swarovski, Nikon, Zeiss. Hell I even have an old Pentax Lightseeker. I guess I must be the luckiest SOB God ever strung a gut through. I have never had any of my scopes crap out on me in any way. I hear some of the companies have great customer service but I wouldn't know. Never had to call on them for a problem.

Then I log on here and read posts by people who seem to go through 5 scopes a week and can't get one in ten to function properly. I'm starting to think that what some of these folks need is a priest to drive the optic demons from their homes. Or maybe a voodoo witch doctor to lift the bad scope curse off their ass. LOL!

Some of you hard luck frackers need to wear a sign around your neck with your 24 Hr Campfire user name on it so I won't end up sitting next to your jinxed asses on a plane.

Toad,

Your idea of "use",ain't...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Cheer up,I Vudoo. Hint.



I'm VERY much enjoying,that your STUPIDITY,is no "act". Hint.

Bless your heart for Trying.

Hint.

LAUGHING!...................

Well, I’m going back to iron sights now.

Johnny L,

For what its worth, just a few thoughts and experiences:

I don't disagree with your discernments on the implications of buying American. And I, too, was a dedicated Gold Ring guy for a long time, owning just under 30 of them at one point. I was a fan boy;
I routinely admonished non-Leupolds in hunting camps and at the range. I truly thought they were the best. And I loved that they were as American made as they could be at their price point.

But, in retrospect, I'll admit that I was both blindly brand loyal and giving them a free pass because of their American roots. Too many times I danced the "Leupold Shuffle" - trying to get rigs sighted in with inconsistent adjustments. Too many times I made and explored other excuses for rigs that didn't hold zero and/or had wondering zero and/or had very inconsistent grouping some days while inexplicably shooting very well on others. The final straw came when the CDS's became popular, and I started dialing for distance more frequently. On 3 of 4 Leupold scopes I owned with turrets designed to be regularly field dialed, I experienced problems with inconsistent tracking and, more frequently, not returning to zero after being dialed. The one that hasn't experienced problems has the older M1 capped turret, which has spent its life on a gas .223, whereas the others were on 300 or 338 mags of one sort or another, so recoil was likely an issue. I'll say that Leupold CS has been nothing short of great, but CS really can't definitively fix fundamental design flaws in their scopes; instead, they bank on the fact that most people don't shoot enough to notice any fundamental shortfalls, or, more commonly nowadays, that people get problem scopes repaired and then send them onto the next person via internet sales.

I embarked on a research journey that led me to find out that many others had routinely experienced the same issues that I had with my beloved Gold Rings. I was hurt. I felt cheated. For a time I didn't know which direction to turn, but I knew I needed more reliable scopes if I was going to continue dialing for shots while hunting. It seemed that with all of the scopes returned to Leupold, they know full well of the issues they have and, by extension, ought to be able to engineer and produce a scope that could stand up to holding and returning to zero. Further, according to my own experiences and those of others, their reliability issues aren't constrained to their lower or mid tier scopes; the issues are also present in their high end offerings.

Eventually, I found my way to a couple of Nightforce scopes and I haven't looked back. Sure, they are pricey and heavier than comparable Leupolds. But they flat out work, even after a beating. And, after they are mounted, you barely notice any weight difference; certainly not enough to throw off a rig's overall utility, and certainly not enough to mean the difference between climbing an extra hill or not. Additionally, they are a company with a substantial manufacturing footprint in the U.S.

I still have low powered Leupolds on a bunch of levers and woods rifles as they are trim and svelt, and they seem to do OK for a time for closer range, set it and forget it type use.

I would love nothing more than for Leupold to make top quality optics I could rely on. Competition mainly benefits the consumer.

I have no issue with my Leupold's (all are pre-2017). I think they shine with dots, not dials, but I've not experienced any issues with the dials I have.

Undoubtedly the "best" USA Made scopes are Nightforce.

LOL, on a couple levels.

Granted, not all are USA made, but some are. Those that are are certainly in a different realm than Leupold (or anything else).

It always makes me laugh, the leupold haters, cheerleader haters are always scared to lock horns with burns. Why is that? Is John a liar, doesn’t hunt much, hunts from the truck or doesn’t twist turrets like the elite hot shots here? Makes me laugh, as I’m sure he could probably run any scope he wanted to, but still chooses leupold... 😆😂

Did he say, “gee stepdad, thanks for making me look like a complete fuucking idiot”?

Laughing.....

In 2018 I bought four VX-3i 3.5-10x40s for under $1300 for all 4. Other than their tracking isn't the best, they're great. Once set they stay there. It's a bit of a pain to sight in, but I don't twist knobs in the field or mess with anything else except adjust parallax with the objective or the side focus knob. Sorry but I have too many rifles to spend an extra $1000 for optics when so far Leupold has done everything I need. Why kick the sleeping dog?

Brad,

Nothing wrong with Nightforce but wondering what Leupold model you are comparing to what Nightforce?

If we are talking heavies the Leupold MK8s stack up just fine to BEAST or ATACR on a ounce per feature basis although it's more expensive.

VX6 is a better buy than Nightforce SHV at the same weight and feature set.

Just wonderin.

Judman:

It's not my intent to "lock horns" with anyone, whether they truly know well of what they type or not. Most of us have experiences and hard earned information that informs our decisions and convictions, and the expression of mine wasn't an attempt to deride or marginalize anyone else's. Just sharing experiences and information that has proven to be of value to my thought process for others to consider. A point of my post was that you can buy other rifle scopes that are as "Designed, Engineered, and Assembled in USA" as Leupolds, and I have found at least one option to be exceedingly good, tough, reliable scopes. I also included the factors that effectuated my consideration of something other than Gold Rings after a lifetime of almost exclusive use. I apologize if that offends anyone's sensibilities.

The experiences I had with a few Leupolds are not isolated or somehow idiosyncratic to my specific use conditions. As stated, I was as big a water boy for Leupold as most anyone. But it came to a point in which I couldn't ignore what I was experiencing; then, the more I looked into it, the more widespread the issues seemed to be. I'm not "hatin" on Leupold or anyone who chooses to use them. I still use a number of them regularly and I sincerely hope that someday I can use them on a rig set up for dialing and have confidence in them, but, for now, I'm not there with them.

Not specifically targeting you starbuck, as you’ve only 5 posts. I don’t get to hunt much, I’m wondering what all the fuss is about? 🤣🤣