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Used to run the LTX's for years till they outpriced themselves for me.

I would encourage you to take a look at the Dextero DHT2. I am on my second set and got close to 50,000 on my last set. they are around 85 - 95 a tire and I believe they are only available at walmart but I have been very pleased. check out their reviews.


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Coopers wear fast. IMO

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Originally Posted by viking
Coopers wear fast. IMO
mine wore way faster than toyo

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Originally Posted by lone wolf
Just bought a set of Toyo Open Country AT'3's for my Ram 1500. Quiet going down the road and have been good off road so far. My size is rated 65.000 miles, we will see.



I am using Toyo Open Country AT ll 10 plys on my Dodge 1500, they have 53,000 miles on the and look to be good for another 3,000 or so, I will replace them before winter sets in though. About 20,000 miles on them were used for towing a trailer and practically every mile on them has been on curvy central Idaho roads both asphalt and gravel.
caution - as much as I like them they are poor on ice and in slick conditions. I have had a couple of instances where I ended up in the ditch because there was a slight slope to the ice covered road and the tires would not get traction. One of the trade-offs in tires, you can have a good traction short wear tire or a poor traction long wear tirel.

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All tires are a compromise, an open aggressive tread give better traction in mud, and snow, but wears faster. Soft tread has good traction on ice, and snow, but again wears faster. Of course open aggressive treads are louder.

Harder tread rubber wears well, but does not have much suction cup action on ice.

Steel studs are great on ice, but you can skate on a fast stop on dry paving.

Dry road braking is a big factor as well.


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Originally Posted by mjac
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I followed this thread with interest 6 months ago but wasn't then in need of tires. Now I am.
I currently have 51K on a set of Toyo Open County AT2's. They are on a 2016 F250 6.7 4x4 and is my heavy RV towing machine. My two gripes with the Toyo's are increasing horrible wet traction and they beginning to lose chunks of tread here and there, some are showing cords and will be replaced forthwith.

Are you Cooper guys who have run your Cooper's awhile now still pleased with them?

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If you're towing heavy, Nitto Exo-Grappler. Despite both having 3 sidewall belts, the Nitto is stiffer (more supportive) than the Cooper. Pard had the Coopers on his '10 6.4L F-250 and I have the Exo's on my '11 F250. Drop something heavy on the ball and it doesn't matter what you do w/air pressure, the Exo handles the load better than the Coopers. They're also superb in snow/packed-snow/icy conditions. The last 2 winters I've run them as "winter tires", have ~30-35K on them. I'm leaving them on this summer to use them up and will put a new set of Exo's on in Oct/Nov. Summer for me is pavement and mostly towing a 4K# boat, almost 0 off-road.


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The Bridgstone DUELER HT685 is on my radar now. The Tire Rack reviews fit my application and sound great.

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My Toyo's are made in California USA.

At least that is what is on the sidewalls.


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I have some Toyo Open Countrys around. But my all time favorite LT tire is the load range E Toyo M-55. From 235-75-15 for the Toyota 4X4 and baby Blazer to 255-85-16 on the 3/4 ton 4X4. I typically get 60K from each set.

They need to be rotated every ten K as the front lugs will start cupping. But that is typical of traction tires in the steering position.


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Originally Posted by viking
Coopers wear fast. IMO


Not in my experience.

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Originally Posted by srwshooter
COOPER AT3 TIRES ARE OK UNTIL YOU GET TO ABOUT HALF TREAD. THEN THEY GET SO DAMNED LOUD YOU CANT HEAR NOTHING BUT THEM.

TOYO TIRES,RIDE BETTER,LAST LONGER AND DONT GET LOUD.



That's been my experience with the Coopers. They started howling two years ago at about half tread life. I thought the wheel bearings were going out. It's night and day difference when I put the studded winter grippers on or take them off. The studded tires are MUCH quieter. Thankfully this will be the last summer for the Cooper boys. They have almost 60,000 miles on them though.

Have no experience with the Toyos.

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