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Untrue. There have been a few over the years. But admittedly not many.

It's more like, "Why are pits so prone to sickle cell anemia?"

If JRT's were dragging a 14" limp d!ck behind them the trailer trash posse would keep those too...it's all about projecting an image.

Neighbors have 6, they keep a pair in each pasture with sheep and cows. They have zero tolerance for anything including people approaching a flock or herd outside the fence even when they know you, but inside the fence they are docile lugs, until someone out side the fence approaches and it's back to business.

I'll never not have a pair. Neat dogs. If I'm home they don't give a flying fugg about any 2 leggeds. I guess they figure it's my purview. Wife has said when I'm not here they act a bit different, but not enough that I have concerns. The innate intelligence they possess is amazing. They don't look at you with a blank stare waiting for you to throw the ball for them lol.

I am another with zero use for any pitbull. I knew the stats, but never understood the kill switch mentality, until we got a JRT. He was the absolute scariest dog I have ever known. He would go from zero to full blown killing machine in two microseconds. All it took was sight of a furry creature moving. The yard cats all survived because they learned all they had to do was roll over on their back, then the dog would ignore them. But the stray cat that ran, had better be fast. As long as a cat was running, he was fair game.

The dog was death on squirrels, rock chucks, and pocket gophers. His favorite thing was fighting raccoons trying to raid the cat food dispenser. Once in attack mode, he was totally oblivious to anything in the world. He got in with a dozen turkey poults (about three pounds) in the yard one day, and set about killing the entire flock. My wife heard the commotion and got to him just as he was finishing the second bird and headed for a third. She was screaming and beating the dog about the head with her fists, But, at that point, he was oblivious to anything but his need to kill. He did not bite or attack her, he was just oblivious to her presence.

I was the only human he ever acted aggressively toward. As a half grown pup, he growled at me for pushing him off my place on the couch. I immediately grabbed him by the scruff of the neck and spanked his butt with my hand. Then he snarled and snapped at me. I grabbed him by the throat and threw him onto his back with all four feet in the air, and kind of half choked him for a minute or two. That was the only time he ever acted aggressive toward a human. But we remained wary.

The dog was a wonderful pet. He loved both of us and the grandkids. He would wear himself absolutely ragged wrestling and playing with the grandkids. But we never let the kids play with him outside our immediate reach. If I had not known I could drop kick him over the fence at the slightest indication of need, he would have been dead and buried as a pup. He was a terrier, and he did what terriers have been bred to do for centuries.

Last I heard, they are still known as pit bull terriers. There are very few of us who could kick an adult pit bull over a yard fence. If I was king, pit bulls would rapidly become extinct.

Yes, malinois, german shepards, collies, rotties, boxers, dobermans, etc can all turn aggressive occasionally. And abuse can turn any dog aggressive. But these are all herding breeds, bred and selected for protective instincts for hundreds of years.

There is a basic difference in brain function between a herding dog and a terrier, born and bred to attack and kill. The herding dog does not, as a rule, become oblivious to his handler during a fight. He will fight to the death to protect his charges, but will break off the attack/pursuit on command.

There is not that instinctive drive to kill. I never heard of the need for a "breaking stick" when handling herding breeds.

Anyone ever see a K9 unit use a pit bull as a hold dog? Why not? Possibly a difference in brain function?

When I had 'em, I used to run my two heeler mutts alot through town next to my bike, otherwise at that time I'd take 'em for hour-long walks early in the morning before work...



During that ten-year period I always carried a 9oz can of bear spray, put bulls and other loose dogs were always a constant worry and, here in the city, shooting even a vicious dog would get complicated.

Almost all charging dogs are actually bluffing and my dogs were usually the target rather than me. Anyways, I do recall using the spray eight times over a ten year period, after each time I replaced it though I had only used a fraction of it..

Only time it didn't work at the first blast was when a rott had already closed in on my loose dog and she was running ovals trying to get away and stay close to me at the same time. That rottweiler got a blast in the face every pass, finally stopped after the third pass and began rubbing her face in the grass.

IIRC the other seven dogs were; one big yellow mutt, one other rottweiler, three pits, a boxer and one for the life I me I cannot recall, but I do remember using the spray eight times.

In every case the inbound dog ignored all my yelling and posturing and came right at us, in every case other than that one rottweiler that sudden 20-30ft blast of spray appeared to instantly startle the dog from "fight" to "flight" mode, throwing a switch inside its head. Most times I actually missed with the spray, shooting low, aim about 2ft above a charging dog's back if ya wanna hit it.

$50 a pop, $400 over ten years, was still much cheaper in complications, legalisms time and money than shooting 'em. Easier too.

I have a lot of love for a good heeler.

Probably the toughest dog in the world to train, like a Missouri mule. You gotta break a 2x4 over his head to get his attention.

My brother, long deceased, used to kick the crap out of his pup. The dog would turn around and look like "What did I do now? Oh yeah, that. Okay." and jump up and lick him in the face. My brother, in Jr High, took the dog to 4H and showed him in obedience class. He took a blue ribbon for the county. But they probably would have taken it away if they had seen his training technique.

He was a big dog, over forty five pounds. Huge by heeler standards. Pheasant hunting, pointing, cat killing, cow chasing fool. The meaner the cow, the better he liked it. Never saw him get kicked, he was too quick. He would dive four feet to the bottom of the water to make a retrieve. And would haul a twenty pound fence post back from fast flowing water.

After my brother died, his dog came to live out his life with me and my family. My kids as toddlers would "tail" him up the hills on hiking trips. Poor old guy was deaf as a stump from sitting under the muzzle of a shotgun or rifle for thousands of rounds with my brother. He could not respond to verbal cues. But he watched your hands like a hawk for any kind of signal and instantly responded.

He was just an incredibly tough animal with unlimited amounts of energy.

I have never owned another heeler. It just would not be fair to the dog, as I have not had the work for him to do.

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Pretty much describes the heeler I have now. The two I had were actually heeler mutts, the best one a heeler/sheepdog type mutt, the second a cross between a heeler and a stumpy tailed cattle dog (a sort of longer-legged heeler). Good dogs but without the fanaticism of the one I have now.



Buying her was planned as my previous two were getting long in the tooth, and a big part of the reason for having dogs was as a burglary deterrent.

Little did I know at the time but as it turned out the missus up and left a couple of years later. It was sorta OK with two people in the house but just me weren't home enough.

Then outta boredom I suppose she became progressively more aggressive with the aging dogs, had to keep 'em separated. Same has turned out to be true with the two little stray mutts I took in. So, she has spent most of her life out in the backyard.

If I woulda known how things were gonna turn out back then I never would have got her.

Surprised the second Pit ran instead of testing you....Definitely a smarter Pit Bull.

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Are you full of shît or just a fûck’n retard?

Trying to catch up on this thread, apologies if this has already been posted.

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Funny thing about heelers....................

Around here.........all the Dutch have a heeler dog. Some of the English have a heeler dog. A Dutchman's heeler dog will almost never bite you. An Englishman's heeler dog will almost always bite you.

Curious.

good....cuz it’s was rank stupidity, if it wasn’t..

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Quick follow up.......I picked my buddy up at the hospital around midnight last night. His left hand was swollen and wrapped up due to deep puncture wounds. They are assuming the dog did not have rabies inoculations and are treating him and his dog accordingly. The dog had $700 worth of attention last night, I thought that was reasonable and expected worse. Stitches in multiple areas, xrays and shots I assume?

When I picked my buddy up I could tell he was still really shook by the entire thing. He's no outdoorsman at all, pretty clueless about a lot of things regarding such matters but still a great old friend. I think myself and most here would have figured out away to kill that [bleep] pitbull.......

Tomorrow he'll be in touch with his county health department, primary doctor and homeowners insurance company.

Sorry to hear about this.

As for pits and other dogs here on the farm.
I live 7 miles from any town and the closest neighbor is a 1/2 mile.

To the south one side of the road has several pits and the west has a bunch of mixed dogs most large.

To the north about 1/8 mile new one has some large dogs and yesterday a pit.

The last few weeks has been pepper the dogs with some bird shot and hope they get the idea that they are not wanted at my house.

Yesterday i had the 3 dogs from the north show up at the barn and they growled at me and bared teeth.

The only shotgun handy was the savage model 34 20 gauge so the pit got a load in the butt and they all ran home.

Talked to the owner today and told him i did not care what type of dog he had as long as they were kept off my place.

I also told him this was the third time they had been here and the next time they would not be coming home.

I think he got the idea.

Today 4 more dogs showed up while i was walking to the house from the shop and they also got the 12 gauge warning.

Next time the bone yard will be filling up again.

It's been years since folks from town dropped off dogs out here thinking folks will look after them and i hope they don't start up again.

I have been chewed up by 2 dogs in my life that were not where they were supposed to be and have told myself that it would not happen again.

That's one stupid quote. Sure training or lack of it will affect how a dog turns out but dogs are bred for a purpose. Ever wonder why bloodhounds are used to track or pointers are used to point? It's not just because those trainers are good at teaching a dog to track or point, it's because the dog was bred to do a job and the trainer hopefully didn't screw it up! I've seen a lot of dogs that could do what they were bred to do, regardless of training and pit bulls are no exception.

Noted.....

Also, if Rotts could take out Pits with regularity, you'd see the dog-fighting rings all using Rotts. They're using Pits due to their results, not due to their reputation.

Happy to hear this....It does sound like both friend and his pup got off pretty easy, compared to how really bad this could have gone for both.

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If you want to talk about your testicles, start a new thread.

Anybody that rides around town with two Heelers off leash is a fugking moron.