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Isn't the 357mag an outdated POS loved only by old guys with shrunken genitals? You know, the kind that post pictures of their revolver with a knife lying on animal skin?

A 4" barrel in a pistol is equivalent to a 3" barrel in a revolver. The 40sw pistol can do 155gr @1250fps. Can a 3" revolver move a 158gr pill that fast?

I can't see any reason to lug around an anemic 6-7 shooter anymore.

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Never been a big fan of the .357.


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Never been a big fan of the .357.


Yep, but I own more than a handful. They are 38's...


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The .357 as a defensive cartridge just doesn't make much sense when you consider cartridges available in semi-auto's. In fact, I can't think of ANY defensive situation where I would want a revolver over a semi-auto; this is the 21st century.

So why would I carry a .357? Because I want to!

When I go into the woods, that's when I indulge and carry some of my other handguns just because I like them, and I want to carry them. Not because they're "best" (oh God, I hate that word) tool for the job, but because I just have a cool revolver and I want to carry it in the woods.

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Originally Posted by dla
Isn't the 357mag an outdated POS loved only by old guys with shrunken genitals? You know, the kind that post pictures of their revolver with a knife lying on animal skin?

A 4" barrel in a pistol is equivalent to a 3" barrel in a revolver. The 40sw pistol can do 155gr @1250fps. Can a 3" revolver move a 158gr pill that fast?

I can't see any reason to lug around an anemic 6-7 shooter anymore.
You could carry a 50 AE Desert Eagle and you'd still be retarded.

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by dla
Isn't the 357mag an outdated POS loved only by old guys with shrunken genitals? You know, the kind that post pictures of their revolver with a knife lying on animal skin?

A 4" barrel in a pistol is equivalent to a 3" barrel in a revolver. The 40sw pistol can do 155gr @1250fps. Can a 3" revolver move a 158gr pill that fast?

I can't see any reason to lug around an anemic 6-7 shooter anymore.
You could carry a 50 AE Desert Eagle and you'd still be retarded.

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I got one (6 inch Colt King Cobra) but I love the modern version, 357 Sig.

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Originally Posted by viking
I got one (6 inch Colt King Cobra) but I love the modern version, 357 Sig.


For personal defense, I believe the Sig is the best in my opinion. The 357 Magnum is still an outstanding cartridge for the woods.


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Originally Posted by dla
Isn't the 357mag an outdated POS loved only by old guys with shrunken genitals? You know, the kind that post pictures of their revolver with a knife lying on animal skin?

A 4" barrel in a pistol is equivalent to a 3" barrel in a revolver. The 40sw pistol can do 155gr @1250fps. Can a 3" revolver move a 158gr pill that fast?

I can't see any reason to lug around an anemic 6-7 shooter anymore.



Ballistically they are both plenty powerful enough for defensive purposes. And, I'd choose my Glock 22 over my Security Six every time for personal defense.

That said, a 3" 357 revolver easily has the nuts to start a 158gr at 1250 plus.

Here's a 2.25" SP101 starting a 180gr at 1260 fps.


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The .357 Magnum, like the .45 ACP, is a creature of the era in which it was developed. Guns,bullets, and propellants have come a long way since then. If neither already existed today, would there be a good reason to invent them?

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Originally Posted by dla
I can't see any reason to lug around an anemic 6-7 shooter anymore.


limited ammo capacity is a reality, but not anemic in any sense.


Not all handgun shooting is a life-or-death situation, Sometimes it's just for enjoyment. I like my revolvers when there is snow on the ground, and I want to recover brass. It's just a lot easier with a revolver.

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Isn't the 357mag an outdated POS loved only by old guys with shrunken genitals? You know, the kind that post pictures of their revolver with a knife lying on animal skin?

A 4" barrel in a pistol is equivalent to a 3" barrel in a revolver. The 40sw pistol can do 155gr @1250fps. Can a 3" revolver move a 158gr pill that fast?

I can't see any reason to lug around an anemic 6-7 shooter anymore.
You could carry a 50 AE Desert Eagle and you'd still be retarded.

This might be over your zika-virus tiny head, but anyone carrying a DE IS retarded.

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You had to have just taken that shot for this thread, right? grin

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I have both and shoot both. For whatever reason (long time familiarity most likely) I shoot the K Frame S&W M66-8 2.75" .357 Mag better. Here are some chrono results from my then new Labradar test run.

Labradar Muzzle Velocity (familiarization run)
60 Deg F
S&W M66-8 2.75" .357 Mag

130gr Fed Hydra-Shok JHP "Personal Defense" PD357HS2 H …….. 1,416 fps avg (84 fps ES) -- two rounds
140gr Underwood Xtreme Penetrator (Philips head mono metal).. 1,422 fps avg ( 5 fps ES) -- two rounds
158gr Horn Xtp - 15.0gr A2400 Std small pistol, new Starline...… 1,316 fps avg (49 fps ES) -- six rounds
165gr CSWCGC (358156) - 13.0gr A2400 New Starline         ...… 1,180 fps avg (84 fps ES) -- six rounds
180gr Buff Bore …………………………………………………………………………….. 1,312 fps avg ( 6 fps ES) -- two rounds
185gr LFNGC (Beartooth), 15.0gr Lil'Gun, CCI 400 New Starline.. 1,228 fps avg (14 fps ES) – two rounds
200gr WLNGC (leadheads), 13.4gr H110, Fed 205, New Starline.. 1,102 fps avg ( 4 fps ES) – two rounds
200gr WLNGC (leadheads), 14.4gr H110, Fed 205, New Starline.. 1,155 fps avg ( 2 fps ES) – two rounds
(purported to be the “Doubletap” load info)
200gr WLNGC (leadheads) handload with Lil Gun ………………………. 1,266 fps avg ( 2 fps ES) -- two rounds
Load data not given -- maybe too much of a good thing. Spent cases fell from chambers, and no obvious signs of over pressure. Recoil was heavy for a .357.

If even needed, I would limit useage of the 180, 185, and 200gr loads in J & K Frame guns

Also ran two Buff Bore 180s thru 16" Rossi M92 carbine ……………. 1,894 fps avg ( 6 fps ES) -- two rounds

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I have and like both revolvers and semi-autos. For most any realistic self-defense scenario a 5 or 6 shot revolver is more than adequate. However, if I am expecting to go to war and potentially fight off massed Banzai charges, by all means give me a large capacity semi-auto with multiple extra mags.

I load my own ammo and about the hottest safe 9mm ammo I can come up with is about equal to good .38 Special loads. Think a 7 or 8 shot .45 ACP M-1911 has good stopping power? I agree that it does. However, my .44 Special +P loads in a 5 or 6 shot revolver are much better. Actually, I have lately been looking at maybe loading up some .44 Russian loads (just a shorter version of .44 Spl, which is a shorter .44 Mag.) that appear to be about equal to a .45 ACP. So, I can take my .44 Mag and safely load it for "T-Rex" magnum stopping power loads, deer and elk size magnum loads, anti-personnel and deer & hog sized +P special loads, or special and Russian loads for varmints, target, and anti-personnel use. I cannot find that versatility in any semi-auto.

Both revolvers and semi-autos have pros and cons. With semis you can get higher capacities and can reload faster. Good for Banzai charges and spray and pray shooting. With revolvers you have less capacity, slower reloading, and much better ammo power versatility. I think the most important thing with either one of them is to be able to actually hit as many targets as your are likely to encounter accurately with enough power to do the job.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
[quote=EthanEdwards][quote=dla]Isn't the 357mag an outdated POS loved only by old guys with shrunken genitals? You know, the kind that post pictures of their revolver with a knife lying on animal skin?

A 4" barrel in a pistol is equivalent to a 3" barrel in a revolver. The 40sw pistol can do 155gr @1250fps. Can a 3" revolver move a 158gr pill that fast?

I can't see any reason to lug around an anemic 6-7 shooter anymore.
You could carry a 50 AE Desert Eagle and you'd still be retarded.
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BTW, I have and like the 40 SW

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That was hurtful, dla. Maybe a little true...but still hurtful. I didn’t have an animal skin handy.

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