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Setting up a New Haven SS FW 30-06 rifle for do-all or most-all NA applications. Whats a good and on the heavy side FACTORY load that might want to shoot out of this rifle? I'm not sure what the twist is on these. Hoping there is a factory loaded 200 grain NP, A-frame, Scirocco, AB (maybe), TBBC is out there that will work in this one. Barnes 180 TTSX maybe? Anyone been down this road? Recommendations requested
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These might not be as heavy as you are looking for, but my Model 70 SS FW has liked these two the best, both under 1" groups and very consistent with each other. They have both gone elk hunting with me, but I have not taken one with either yet. I would trust either load for just about anything in the lower 48 and most of Alaska. For a big brownie, I am not sure about.
Most of the other loads my gun did not like, heavy or light with different bullets. This gun did not like Barnes bullets.
Lead Free: Hornady Superformance GMX 165 grain boat tail (first choice)
Lead: Nosler Trophy Grade 180 grain Accubond.
I still have to try the TBBC in this rifle. I do have two other calibers that like that bullet.
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I also have a stainless model 70 in 30-06, although mine is not a featherweight. I like to tinker around with various loads in it and shoot a lot of both 165 grain and 180 grain Hornadys, but my do everything, all around load is a 180 grain Partition over 58 grains of Hunter for about 2750 over my Oehler. Flat enough for pronghorns out to 300 or so and hits hard enough for big deer or elk. The 165 grain TTSX shoots very well in my rifle also, but with the powders I tried it wasn’t going any faster than the 180 grain Partition so I have not used it on game.
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Hornandy Precision Hunter in 178 Grain ELD-X at 2750 fps. Shoots right and tight in both my Barrett fC and my Winchester Model 70 2008 Deluxwe BACO 30/06 Featherweight.
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i suggest finding some federal premium vital shock factory ammo loaded with 180gr partitions.
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Good old core lokt. Box of 180s for range and 220s for up close. It ain't rocket science.
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Another vote for the 180 Partitions
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My old man is a non-looney rifleman. He bought a Browning BAR 30-06 sometime back in the late 80's and used 180 grain Core Lokts for hunting deer. When we started hunting bigger animals such as elk and moose he tried the Federal 180 grain Partitions. They shot better than the old Remingtons he used, so he bought a case of the ammo, around the early 90's. He still has a few boxes of it left, even though he doesn't do much other than deer hunting, but the rifle is only shot a couple times, if that per year at a 200 yard target and just hunted. He's taken moose, elk, caribou, deer, black bear and whatever else with it. He doesn't know the Partition isn't the latest and greatest, he just knows it works really well for him and he considers 350 yards a LONG way. So, if I was looking for one factory load, I'd probably try a 180 Partition or Accubond myself and if it shoots, buy up as much as you can afford to keep you running. Kinda the beauty of the 30-06, you can buy a case of ammo, for not much money and be ultimately effective for just about anything... I am not sure what I would do with the extra time though
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It is startling that one can enjoy that kind of success without a bullet with a BC north of .600!
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It is startling that one can enjoy that kind of success without a bullet with a BC north of .600! I KNOW! I was/am the gun looney and chase all of that nonsense. Him, he just loads, zeros and commences to hunt with his stuff. He even uses an old VariXIII on the rifle still...
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Setting up a New Haven SS FW 30-06 rifle for do-all or most-all NA applications. Whats a good and on the heavy side FACTORY load that might want to shoot out of this rifle? I'm not sure what the twist is on these. Hoping there is a factory loaded 200 grain NP, A-frame, Scirocco, AB (maybe), TBBC is out there that will work in this one. Barnes 180 TTSX maybe? Anyone been down this road? Recommendations requested I’ve spent a fair amount of time chronographing factory 30-06 ammo from several different rifles, and I think you may be disappointed. I focused on common 180-grain factory loads like Remington CoreLokt, Winchester Power Point, and Federal Power-Shok, plus the Federal 180-grain Partition load. I have more recently started testing more 150-grain and 165-grain loads. Rifles include a 24” FN Mauser, a 24” NH Model 70, a 23.6” Tikka T3x, a 22” BACO Model 70 FWT, two 22” Husqvarna 1640s, and a 20.5” Husqvarna 1640. The 20.5" gun is an outlier--everything is slow in that barrel. All of these barrels have 1:10 twist except for the Husqvarnas which are 1:12. Here’s what I learned: 1. Most 180-grain loads did about 2,650 in these rifles. A couple ran almost 2,750 fps. No two rifles hit their top speeds with the same load. 2. The Federal 180-grain Partition load (P3006F) fan fastest (2,634 fps) in the 24” NH Model 70. In 22” barrels, it rarely runs faster than 2,550 fps. 3. Once upon a time, Federal offered a High Energy 180-grain Partition load (P3006R). I clocked this load at 2,800 fps in the 24” NH Model 70. Groups were about 1.8 MOA, which is probably adequate for anything that demands a 200-grain .308” bullet at 2,800 fps. They also made a High Energy 165-grain load, but that stuff grouped into about 4” at 100 yards in my rifles. 4. Federal’s 308 180-grain Partition load does 2,550 fps in a 24” Remington 700 ADL. 5. Remington 220-grain CoreLokt is a classic old-school heavyweight in the 30-06. It clocks 2,400 fps reliably in a 24” barrel. 6. I haven’t tried the 180-grain Barnes in any of these rifles because I’m not sure that the 30-06 has enough speed to open it reliably at longer range. I’d be more inclined to look at a 150-grain Barnes in the 30-06. Federal loads a 200-grain Trophy Bonded Bear Claw for the 30-06 but I’ve never tried it or the Lapua 200-grain load. Even though they exist, they may be almost impossible to find. With all of this in mind, remember that the 30-06/180 earned a glorious reputation despite probably never running a full 2,700 fps in 85% of the rifles for which it was chambered. If you’re not going to handload, then I’d zero the 180 of your choice at 200 yards, note where the 220-grain load hits (which is probably about POA at 100 yards), and call it a day. Okie John
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My old man is a non-looney rifleman. He bought a Browning BAR 30-06 sometime back in the late 80's and used 180 grain Core Lokts for hunting deer. When we started hunting bigger animals such as elk and moose he tried the Federal 180 grain Partitions. They shot better than the old Remingtons he used, so he bought a case of the ammo, around the early 90's. He still has a few boxes of it left, even though he doesn't do much other than deer hunting, but the rifle is only shot a couple times, if that per year at a 200 yard target and just hunted. He's taken moose, elk, caribou, deer, black bear and whatever else with it. He doesn't know the Partition isn't the latest and greatest, he just knows it works really well for him and he considers 350 yards a LONG way. So, if I was looking for one factory load, I'd probably try a 180 Partition or Accubond myself and if it shoots, buy up as much as you can afford to keep you running. Kinda the beauty of the 30-06, you can buy a case of ammo, for not much money and be ultimately effective for just about anything... I am not sure what I would do with the extra time though He sounds like a wise, common-sense, practical man, Sorta makes all this gack irrelevant, doesn't it?
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My old man is a non-looney rifleman. He bought a Browning BAR 30-06 sometime back in the late 80's and used 180 grain Core Lokts for hunting deer. When we started hunting bigger animals such as elk and moose he tried the Federal 180 grain Partitions. They shot better than the old Remingtons he used, so he bought a case of the ammo, around the early 90's. He still has a few boxes of it left, even though he doesn't do much other than deer hunting, but the rifle is only shot a couple times, if that per year at a 200 yard target and just hunted. He's taken moose, elk, caribou, deer, black bear and whatever else with it. He doesn't know the Partition isn't the latest and greatest, he just knows it works really well for him and he considers 350 yards a LONG way. So, if I was looking for one factory load, I'd probably try a 180 Partition or Accubond myself and if it shoots, buy up as much as you can afford to keep you running. Kinda the beauty of the 30-06, you can buy a case of ammo, for not much money and be ultimately effective for just about anything... I am not sure what I would do with the extra time though He sounds like a wise, common-sense, practical man, Sorta makes all this gack irrelevant, doesn't it? It does. He took so many animals with his 06 I refused to get one and instead got a 7 Rem Mag instead, cause I'd show him how much better it would be Ah well, after all this time, he is right, I couldn't have gotten an Echols Legend 30-06 and probably hunted alot more animals with the money I'd saved.. It's been fun trying a bunch though.
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Just pick any 180gr 30-06 load, I don't think that there are any bad ones.
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A 180 Partition will do everything that you need and then some.
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A 180 Partition will do everything that you need and then some. Another vote for this.There is nothing anywhere in North America I wouldn't use this on. And the other plus is that amongst the premiums, it'll be the easiest ammo to find.
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I’ve had good results and accuracy in multiple Winchester ‘06s with the factory Nosler 180 accubond load.
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If your shots will be 200 yards or less the 180gr round nose Remington Corelokts are called the poor man's partitions for good reason.
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Since Federal is not loading 200 Partitions anymore as far as I know, for a heavy weight, I'd opt for the 200 gr TBBC loading.
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A 180 Partition will do everything that you need and then some. Another vote for this.
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