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Hi guys, There was a post little while back on Mr. Forbes CLR Hybrid Conversions and mentioned I was having one done in 284win and it showed up today. Several members asked me to send pics and details so thought I would share here for everyone interested. As most know, no better person to work with than Mr. Forbes, takes his time with you and makes sure he understands exactly what you are wanting. True class act. I asked him to inspect the action before he did any work on the build and he said it was a very good and great for the 284win build. This was a CLR 270 originally and had Mr. Forbes do the following: Replace with his stock and woodland camo Replace Trigger/Safety (Timney) New mag box and follower New trigger guard Install new Douglas barrel #1 at 22" and 9 twist Cerakote barrel and action Talley 1" lows Total cost was right at $1550 for everything not including the CLR action.
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Thanks for the post and the information. Hope you keep us updated.
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Don't understand why you did a short action caliber in a long action? wouldn't a 280 made more sense?
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Don't understand why you did a short action caliber in a long action? wouldn't a 280 made more sense?
284s in long action is the way most go when building... Gives you room to seat the longer BC bullets. The mag box in short action is pretty limiting at 2.9" or so with the 284.
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Price seems more than reasonable.
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Had it been 8" RPM and a thunk given at throat geometry,it woulda connected all dots. Hint.
The Forbes S/A magbox's are relatively roomy in COAL,while their L/A is not. A 280 quickly runs itself outta room there,just as a Montucky or Fieldcraft does as well. Too bad all. Hint.
Hopefully,as a minimum the barrel is S/S.
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Had it been 8" RPM and a thunk given at throat geometry,it woulda connected all dots. Hint.
The Forbes S/A magbox's are relatively roomy in COAL,while their L/A is not. A 280 quickly runs itself outta room there,just as a Montucky or Fieldcraft does as well. Too bad all. Hint.
Hopefully,as a minimum the barrel is S/S.
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Yes, it's SS cerakoted. This is a CLR conversion, not a Forbes conversion so all CLRs are long actions. I explained to Melvin I would want to shoot anything from 120BTs(primary bullet) up to 168 VLDs and his recommendation was 9 twist. I have other rifles if I ever needed longer distance than 168VLD would give me. Berger website says min 1:10 twist for 168VLD so feel I'm fine but thanks.
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Point was/is,that it's an epic design FLAW,to cast such roominess in COAL on the S/A's,yet be soooooo stingy with same on the L/A's. Thus the extrapolation and pardon my being more than a touch fluent in such things. Hint.
With the CLR/Forbes/Fieldcraft in hand,along with a piece of 284 brass,it mighta' taken me 12 seconds to seat a 180 ELD to use as a Dummy to ascertain throat geometry(clearance and freebore),while allowing myself room to chase lands. Why the fhuqk anyone would do it ANY other fhuqking way,is beyond me,but is fhuqking FUNNY! Hint.
There is nothing redeeming in the Booger 168,in any chambering or with any twist rate,as it's a turd. The 162 ELD slaps it silly,for less jingle,if only for starters. Hint.
Why one would wantonly discard THE best boolit in da' bidness,when spec'ing a Custom with the internals to connect those dots,can only swing the pendulum to FULL Fhuqking Retard. Though an "explanation" of how the 168 "tops out" 284 Win case capacity,will be worth a few fhuqking more laughs. Hint.
It'll only come as a surprise only to you,that an 8" RPM spout wearing a friendly 180 throat,will of course pinwheel the Dog Schit 120 NBT too. Hint.
I get it that you are CLUELESS,but it is FUNNY. Hint.
Bless your heart for TRYING though.
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That's a very good looking rifle. And if you got what you paid for, that's what matters.
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This rifle was built for deer hunting between 100-400yds that I can carry all day. I don't want to shoot 180+ grain bullet out of a 5.5lb rifle at 500+yds... Lol. I have other rifles for those hunts, don't need this one to be a do it all rifle. The main bullet I will shoot will be a 120bt at 3200fps... It's an awesome deer killer easily to 600yds.
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That's a very good looking rifle. And if you got what you paid for, that's what matters. Thanks, yes it's exactly what I was wanting from Mr. Forbes. I'm also a huge Colt fan and liked having the Rampant Colt logo on the action.
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A very nice rifle indeed. You will be pleased with the way it shoots and feeds in the LA. FYI. Norma made a small batch of .284win brass. There might be some available out there If one looks hard enough.
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This rifle was built for deer hunting between 100-400yds that I can carry all day. I don't want to shoot 180+ grain bullet out of a 5.5lb rifle at 500+yds... Lol. I have other rifles for those hunts, don't need this one to be a do it all rifle. The main bullet I will shoot will be a 120bt at 3200fps... It's an awesome deer killer easily to 600yds.
Don't understand why you did a short action caliber in a long action? wouldn't a 280 made more sense?
284s in long action is the way most go when building... Gives you room to seat the longer BC bullets. The mag box in short action is pretty limiting at 2.9" or so with the 284. Fhuqking HILARIOUS Ineptitude. Hint. Congratulations?!? Pardon my having shot a bajillion .284" 120's(all flavors and of course NBT's),in countless 7-08's,multiple 7-08 AI's,ShamWow's,Whizzum's,multiple 284's,280's,280 AI's,7mm RemMag's and of course STW. If only for starters. I enjoy the SPECTACULAR Hilarity of a sub .400 BC G1 drag function at 3200fps,being "the ticket" to 600yds(sub 1800fps impact). Then the "wisdom" of building a Goat Fhuqk Custom,to purposely arrange something soooooooo HILARIOUSLY Pathetic,with "all" that you "know". Hint. LAUGHING! Rest assured,that upping RPM and spec'ing a great throat,don't add "weight" to the equation either. Now muse a smidge on the mounting system/glass that's destined for that Piece Of schit and REALLY add some more oblivious fhuqking humor. Hint. I'll not mention that 264 Kreedmire Factory Fodder,makes that impact velocity to the 750yd+ line. If only due to your extry sensitive recoil aversion(s). Hint. LAUGHING! You CLUELESS Drooling fhuqktards are a HOOT! Hint. Bless your heart for TRYING though. Hint. LAUGHING!................... As an aside,Norma 284 Win brass is fhuqking Dog Schit...bump Lapooey's up. Hint..................
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Anyway, back on ignore for Dip Stick. Anyone that hunts with a .284 bullet knows the 120bt is a great bullet. And at 3200fps at muzzle and .417 bc according to ballistic calculator that's 1950fps at 600yds. Not that I would ever shoot this rifle at a deer that distance anyway...
Anyway, I wanted a lightweight .284 built by Melvin and primary purpose for deer. For those that like it, thanks for comments.
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He's on ignore, but let me guess: he's bashing your rifle because it's not set up to shoot 4x further than you'll ever hunt with it and/or your bullet because his computer doesn't like it, despite you having *actually killed game* with it.
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He's on ignore, but let me guess: he's bashing your rifle because it's not set up to shoot 4x further than you'll ever hunt with it and/or your bullet because his computer doesn't like it, despite you having *actually killed game* with it. Lol, you nailed it.
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Oh my,NOT Imaginary Pretend Ignore,as yet another CLUELESS Fhuqk shoves her pointy head in the sand...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? In fairness,Nuzzler's BC values are easily amongst THE most fhuqking hilariously inflated. The Litz G7 is .185,which of course translates to sub .400 G1,as I simply stated. I've a "hunch" that I'm fairly 7mm and 120gr fluent,if only to a Drooling Retard's chagrin. Simply state the atmospherics and I'll happily slap you upside your own pointy fhuqking head,with even more of your contrived fhuqking STUPIDITY. Hint. Be SURE to yell at the calculator. LAUGHING! Now you are the one who cited the initial and subsequent distances and of course are more than a little taken aback,when I speak with the Facts and Physics of those particulars. Read that again. Now one more time. THAT is some fhuqking FUNNY schit! Hint. LAUGHING! Be sure to "teel" me "more",because you REALLY "know" your "stuff". You CLUELESS Fhuqktards never disappoint and that by simply giving it your ALL. Hint. Laughing! Bless your heart for fhuqking Trying and botching schit soooooooo fhuqking Hilariously! Hint. LAUGHING!.................... clockwork whiner, Pardon my simply shooting it all and then some,as you try to keep pace with your GoogleFu...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? It takes some REAL "thought",to build a Custom long action,that pales to 264 Kreedmire Factory Fodder,given the "knowledge","experience" and "results" the DUMB Fhuqk concocted as a "recipe". Hint. laughing! I VERY much enjoy how "real" Imaginary Pretend Ignore is,to you AMAZINGLY Stupid Kchunts. hint. Bless your heart for lying and don't "forget",that you "can't read" this. Hint. LAUGHING! Wow +P+++!!!.................
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He's on ignore, but let me guess: he's bashing your rifle because it's not set up to shoot 4x further than you'll ever hunt with it and/or your bullet because his computer doesn't like it, despite you having *actually killed game* with it. Lol, you nailed it. Haha oh well... Forest Gump was right about stupid. Let us know how it shoots.
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Point was/is,that it's an epic design FLAW,to cast such roominess in COAL on the S/A's,yet be soooooo stingy with same on the L/A's..
Biggus Stikkus,.. what's the actual max. magbox length of the L/A...?.. to three decimal places if you don't mind.
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I like it, the 284 round included.
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If Big Stick says it has stuff wrong with it the gun must be stellar. And no, I'm not taking Dip Head or Richard Noggin or whatever you call him off ignore. If I knew as much as he thinks he does I'd be a double genius. Scary isn't it? Be Well, Rustyzipper.
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VERY NICE ! !
Love the weight.
Altho not as light I have a 284 on a 98 with 21” bll and Timney. I shoot 139 HBTSP @ 3000 FPS and it hammers WT. I’m not pushing pressure limits because it is what I want.
Makes NO diff what anybody else thinks or says.
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Very nice!
If I may ask, do you know what the stock alone would run?
I also have a CLR and have been toying with the idea of getting one of his stocks and wondering what his current price was.
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JP:
Very nice!
If I may ask, do you know what the stock alone would run?
I also have a CLR and have been toying with the idea of getting one of his stocks and wondering what his current price was.
Thanks
BB Melvin doesn't send a detailed line item invoice with his work, he just writes down what you are wanting and gives you a total price. But as he was going through the process with me, seems like the stock was right at $650 that included pillars, bedding and painting.
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Nice rig, let us know how she shoots.
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If Big Stick says it has stuff wrong with it the gun must be stellar. And no, I'm not taking Dip Head or Richard Noggin or whatever you call him off ignore. If I knew as much as he thinks he does I'd be a double genius. Scary isn't it? Be Well, Rustyzipper.
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I just had 2 of the CLR converted to 280AI and 30-06 Serengeti by Dan Coffin out in Montana. I should get them back next week or so. I did a couple changes. One was bartlein barrels. I used one of Melvin's stocks on the 280Ai and a Pendelton on the Serengeti. Both have jewel triggers and Harrell brakes. I was told by my buddy that lives out there that the Serengeti weighed in at 5lb 2oz. Looking forward to getting them back.
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I just had 2 of the CLR converted to 280AI and 30-06 Serengeti by Dan Coffin out in Montana. I should get them back next week or so. I did a couple changes. One was bartlein barrels. I used one of Melvin's stocks on the 280Ai and a Pendelton on the Serengeti. Both have jewel triggers and Harrell brakes. I was told by my buddy that lives out there that the Serengeti weighed in at 5lb 2oz. Looking forward to getting them back. Will be very interested in seeing pics and details after you get them back. I have another CLR 270 sitting in the box and trying to decide what to do with it. Douglas barrel would not be my first choice but that's what Melvin likes to use and guarantees with his builds so I took his advice. Used his load data with V140 and 140BTs and took to range to sight it. It shot .75" with it so probably will just go with it for deer season this year. Not a screaming load, right at 2850fps but plenty for deer out to 400yds here east of Mississippi River. If I reschedule my out west hunt, I will work up a load with 160ABs for a do everything load.
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I already have a NULA in 6.5 creedmoor that is a one hole rifle with 130 VLD and a CLR in 7 rem mag that shoots 168 vld classics incredible. Both have bartlein barrels on them also. All were done by Dan Coffin.
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