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You're killing me Brad, ha! Those are some super fine bulls! I had a chance to try R17/168 TTSX in the WSM. It worked out great as I wanted to see if R17 "behaved" over 80 deg. In two rifles of mine, R26 "did not, went wonky" over 80! Our weather turned off hot ( for us) 83 deg the PM I shot the trial loads. 64gr/R17/Win prepped new brass/Fed 215M gave easy extraction and 3 shots ( I always start out with 3, go up to 5-6 later if a load shows promise.) anyhow, 64gr went into .40" and 65gr/went into a nice, rounded .75". 66gr jumped to 1.5". I will chrono both 64/65 and just see how fast they are going. I am fine if the 64gr is between 3000-3100fps. I would almost bet, right now, since this rifle has a tight chamber, I have plenty of speed! I was really impressed with R17 as I have used it in several cartridges in cold temps where it also proved very good. R26 does for me too, in the cold. But, I am settling on the 168 TTSX. I will try out the 150 TTSX later in a 30-06. Thanks for the input guys! And Brad...you are one bull elk killing devil! ha
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I've never owned a 300 WSM in a lightweight rifle. I am not bothered by recoil, but am also not a sucker for punishment, ha. I have a 270/129 LRX on the light end (an 84L Classic) and a 300WM Bergara Hunter on the heavy end. I have a Kimber 8400 in 300WSM/175 LRX on the way. I kind of envisioned this 300WSM as more of an all arounder. By that I mean set up for deer and elk, from near to 400. For a deer hunt, I'd take the 270/300WSM, for a elk hunt I'd take the 300WSM/300 Win Mag. I also would use the Bergara for nasty weather. In the 300WSM I am considering starting out with the 150 TTSX but, since its a magnum, maybe I'd be better off with the 175LRX in it also? Anyone found one bullet weight (monos) "easier shooting" than another or is it moot? I'd like to hear from you guys? I have some 200 Nosler PTs for the Bergara also, but are they "too much of a good thing" in an 8400? Before scoring the Holy Grail of Montana's I was shooting a 300WSM Montana, prior to that a Win 70 300WSM with the plastic stock. The Montana was pleasant to shoot in comparison to the Winchester and I believe it's mostly attributable to the stock. And I was shooting 180's at max, not those little Nosler 125's.
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I dont consider myself too recoil sensitive. I have shot a .300 WBY since I was 13, that I still use, plus multiple other magnum 7s and 30s. However, I finally caved on a Model 70 FWT in .300 WSM with an Edge stock. It was just not fun off the bench and too snappy for me to be confident with. I havent weighed it but with Edge Classic, Talleys, and a Swaro Z3, with the barrel cut down to 23 inches, it feels nice, light, and very portable. I finally sent it to Kampfeld to have a brake installed, plus bases drilled to 8-40s, and it is much better. It was either that or sell/rebarrel it BUT it handles like a dream and is my rainy day, packable, thick woods, elk/buck smasher.
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I think your decision to brake that little Gem was spot on pard! The heavier screws are well worth it too. Keep an eye on your scope...I had a MatchGrade Arms made up once in 340 Wby. It had one of those KDF style brakes. The "sudden brake" acted like the piston in an air rifle, kicked the guts out of a Leupold 2.5x8 and a Zeis Conquest 3x9. I had it rebarreld to a bit heavier weight barrel, in 338 WM and Mag Na Ported. Calmed it down to, but was still difficult for me to shoot well in the field. Hopefully you won't have that happen to you, I mean, there are a lot of lwt rifles out there.
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There is something about a 300WSM used in Alaska that just rings true. The numbers and the stories line up. 300WSM - more power than a 30-06, and easier to carry, too. Yup prezacly why I'd take a 30-06 over a 300wsm in Alaska. My -06 has 5 in the mag one in chamber. LOL Both are really great but if I'm around [bleep] that can eat me I'd take the extra rds of the -06 over the wsm
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I'm being a smart-ass.... sorry. Honestly love a 300wsm... But an -06 prolly literally just as good. And more rds in the sum biatch.
Your Every Liberal vote promotes Socialism and is an
attack on the Second Amendment. You will suffer the consequences.
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Finally got to chronograph my loads today. The 300 WSM/R17 64gr/168 TTSX out of this tight chambered Kimber is going 3167fps avge. It also repeated its outstanding accuracy! The 300 Win Mag/ R23 73gr/175 LRX is going 3081 and also repeated its accuracy. My 270/129 LRX/ R16 53.6 did not. I worked on up to 54.5gr and I got 4 shots under 1 1/2". its going 3160 at that weight. I will seat them a tad deeper and try 54.5-55.5 in increments and see how that does.
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I'm being a smart-ass.... sorry. Honestly love a 300wsm... But an -06 prolly literally just as good. And more rds in the sum biatch. Amen! Thank you.
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My 300 wsm has a fluted brux 24" #4 on a predator action. It one of my most accurate rifles with several different bullets and loads. One load it likes is the 150 ttsx over superformance at about 3400 fps. I took a moose with it at 547 yards quartering towards me and the bullet exited. You need nothing heavier than a 150 with a mono. I've shot a lot of other game with the 215 hybrid and 208 amax with it.
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My 300 wsm has a fluted brux 24" #4 on a predator action. It one of my most accurate rifles with several different bullets and loads. One load it likes is the 150 ttsx over superformance at about 3400 fps. I took a moose with it at 547 yards quartering towards me and the bullet exited. You need nothing heavier than a 150 with a mono. I've shot a lot of other game with the 215 hybrid and 208 amax with it.
Bb Mono’s definitely punch above their weight.
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My 300 WSM is a Sako Tecomate at 6 3/4 lbs bare I mounted my favorite
scope Leupold FX-3 6x42 German #4 reticle in Talley lt.wt. about 7 1/2 lbs
all up now I bought some Factory 180 gr loads here on the fire at a good
price all I have shot in it groups well with ANYTHING I try in it!
Recoil not bad for a OLD MAN who broke my back last year !
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My 300 WSM is a Sako Tecomate at 6 3/4 lbs bare I mounted my favorite
scope Leupold FX-3 6x42 German #4 reticle in Talley lt.wt. about 7 1/2 lbs
all up now I bought some Factory 180 gr loads here on the fire at a good
price all I have shot in it groups well with ANYTHING I try in it!
Recoil not bad for a OLD MAN who broke my back last year !
I have the same gun and have only sighted it in but it is a shooter. My go to load in .300 WSM has been a 165 SGK and the Tecomate shoots it 1/2", 3 shot at 100 yards.
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