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Here is the charging document. Much destruction Friday night. Another 1000 NG troops coming.


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You think it's ugly now? Wait until they drop the charges based on the autopsy.


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They had better come up with more than what is on that warrant application to convict someone of murder. I couldn't convict if I only heard their side without even hearing the defense.


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Originally Posted by Hastings
They had better come up with more than what is on that warrant application to convict someone of murder. I couldn't convict if I only heard their side without even hearing the defense.



Heck, the DA was afraid to bring it in front of a grand jury for fear the GJ would no-bill it based only on the DA's evidence. This case does n't even rise to the level of a ham sandwich.


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Originally Posted by RockyRaab
You think it's ugly now? Wait until they drop the charges based on the autopsy.


Where have we seen this before?





On Netflix now.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
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You think it's ugly now? Wait until they drop the charges based on the autopsy.


Where have we seen this before?





On Netflix now.


Sniper, per our earlier discussion on your thread that concerned Mr. Floyd and his background,,,,,I guess you’ve seen that ?


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
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Originally Posted by RockyRaab
You think it's ugly now? Wait until they drop the charges based on the autopsy.


Where have we seen this before?





On Netflix now.


Sniper, per our earlier discussion on your thread that concerned Mr. Floyd and his background,,,,,I guess you’ve seen that ?


Yes, I watched it two nights ago.

It was very good.


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Originally Posted by Hastings
They had better come up with more than what is on that warrant application to convict someone of murder. I couldn't convict if I only heard their side without even hearing the defense.


Not even close to a manslaughter conviction. All for show and case will eventually pled down or probably drop when tox and body cam footage are released. But Obama's useful idiots on here like always will say he strangled Floyd and the cop should be executed.

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Originally Posted by RockyRaab
You think it's ugly now? Wait until they drop the charges based on the autopsy.



They already have the preliminary autopsy and the DA would not have filed if he did not think the final report would confirm causation, even with drugs/alcohol on board. The DA (or his charging deputy or investigator) were present for the autopsy and have spoken personally with the forensic pathologist.


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Originally Posted by ribka
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They had better come up with more than what is on that warrant application to convict someone of murder. I couldn't convict if I only heard their side without even hearing the defense.


Not even close to a manslaughter conviction. All for show and case will eventually pled down or probably drop when tox and body cam footage are released. But Obama's useful idiots on here like always will say he strangled Floyd and the cop should be executed.


Read the elements of a 3rd degree murder in Minnesota. I'll be surprised if they don't get a conviction, even if its only manslaughter, but more likely it will be murder 3.


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Here is the statute. Can't find a free copy of the jury instruction on-line:

2019 Minnesota Statutes

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609.195 MURDER IN THE THIRD DEGREE.
(a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.


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evince 1. to constitute outward evidence of 2.to display clearly; reveal
depraved 1. marked by corruption or evil; esp: perverted
Cops may have displayed indifference and tiredness toward a low income troublesome area and people but I wouldn't come close to saying they were "depraved". The prosecutor has hooked Mr. Chauvin, let's see if he can land him.
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Here is the statute. Can't find a free copy of the jury instruction on-line:

2019 Minnesota Statutes

Murder
609.195 MURDER IN THE THIRD DEGREE.
(a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.


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$100 that he is not convicted of 3rd degree homicide. Take the bet or run away?

You recently posted murder and manslaughter were the same so everyone knows your supposed legal expertise lol



Originally Posted by Tarquin
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
You think it's ugly now? Wait until they drop the charges based on the autopsy.



They already have the preliminary autopsy and the DA would not have filed if he did not think the final report would confirm causation, even with drugs/alcohol on board. The DA (or his charging deputy or investigator) were present for the autopsy and have spoken personally with the forensic pathologist.



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Here is the statute. Can't find a free copy of the jury instruction on-line:

2019 Minnesota Statutes

Murder
609.195 MURDER IN THE THIRD DEGREE.
(a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.

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Originally Posted by ribka
$100 that he is not convicted of 3rd degree homicide. Take the bet or run away?

You recently posted murder and manslaughter were the same so everyone knows your supposed legal expertise lol



Originally Posted by Tarquin
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
You think it's ugly now? Wait until they drop the charges based on the autopsy.



They already have the preliminary autopsy and the DA would not have filed if he did not think the final report would confirm causation, even with drugs/alcohol on board. The DA (or his charging deputy or investigator) were present for the autopsy and have spoken personally with the forensic pathologist.



Originally Posted by Tarquin
Here is the statute. Can't find a free copy of the jury instruction on-line:

2019 Minnesota Statutes

Murder
609.195 MURDER IN THE THIRD DEGREE.
(a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.



I never said murder and manslaughter are the same. I said manslaughter is a form of homicide (unlawful killing) which it is.

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Originally Posted by Tarquin
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$100 that he is not convicted of 3rd degree homicide. Take the bet or run away?

You recently posted murder and manslaughter were the same so everyone knows your supposed legal expertise lol



Originally Posted by Tarquin
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
You think it's ugly now? Wait until they drop the charges based on the autopsy.



They already have the preliminary autopsy and the DA would not have filed if he did not think the final report would confirm causation, even with drugs/alcohol on board. The DA (or his charging deputy or investigator) were present for the autopsy and have spoken personally with the forensic pathologist.



Originally Posted by Tarquin
Here is the statute. Can't find a free copy of the jury instruction on-line:

2019 Minnesota Statutes

Murder
609.195 MURDER IN THE THIRD DEGREE.
(a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.



I never said murder and manslaughter are the same. I said manslaughter is a form of homicide (unlawful killing) which it is.



Sheer genius, that.


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Originally Posted by Tarquin
Originally Posted by ribka
$100 that he is not convicted of 3rd degree homicide. Take the bet or run away?

You recently posted murder and manslaughter were the same so everyone knows your supposed legal expertise lol



Originally Posted by Tarquin
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
You think it's ugly now? Wait until they drop the charges based on the autopsy.



They already have the preliminary autopsy and the DA would not have filed if he did not think the final report would confirm causation, even with drugs/alcohol on board. The DA (or his charging deputy or investigator) were present for the autopsy and have spoken personally with the forensic pathologist.



Originally Posted by Tarquin
Here is the statute. Can't find a free copy of the jury instruction on-line:

2019 Minnesota Statutes

Murder
609.195 MURDER IN THE THIRD DEGREE.
(a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.



I never said murder and manslaughter are the same. I said manslaughter is a form of homicide (unlawful killing) which it is.


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