Yes, you are reading it correctly. A non-licensee can ship a rifle to an FFL in California just like a non-licensee can ship a rifle to an FFL in any other state in the lower 48.
They can, but lots of FFLs in CA will not deal with out of state transfers unless the shipping party is also an FFL. It's stupid, but CA FFLs tend to be very risk averse.
Eliminate qualified immunity and you'll eliminate cops who act like they are above the law.
yes a individual can ship a long arm to a FFL in California. Hand guns have to be FFL to FFL
While its legal some PO people dont know it and even refuse to look it up. I had a big hassle shipping a rifle to Shean Maegan in California. It went to the point that the PO lady called the Sherriff to charge me with trespassing.
I produced the regs and a PO person that had been on lunch agreed that yes they can ship a long arm from a individual t0 FFl
yes a individual can ship a long arm to a FFL in California. Hand guns have to be FFL to FFL
While its legal some PO people dont know it and even refuse to look it up. I had a big hassle shipping a rifle to Shean Maegan in California. It went to the point that the PO lady called the Sherriff to charge me with trespassing.
I produced the regs and a PO person that had been on lunch agreed that yes they can ship a long arm from a individual t0 FFl
Lefty
What did the sheriff do? What did the know it all do?
As others have said, YES, it IS legal (Ie: private individual shipping a gun to a FFL that's out of State for a transfer), but it is up to the receiving FFL to say if they will accept it. There is more potential for a headache (legal wise), so many choose no to do so, and prefer FFL to FFL transfers for long guns. -TomT
There are a few FFL's in CA that will accept from an individual. What you have to do is go to the California DOJ website and fill out a form for shipping a firearm to CA. Pistols can be a problem, but rifles are not. It does not cost you anything but some of your info. A CA FFL CAN NOT accept any firearm from an FFL or otherwise without that form. It will cost the buyer about $100 to get it registered in CA, as well as paying an 8% tax on the entire transaction.
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2. I am not an FFL but I want to ship a firearm to a California FFL. Do I have to obtain a Firearms Shipment Approval number before shipping a firearm to California?
No. Only shipments from Federal Firearms Licensees (FFL) require a Firearms Shipment Approval number.
If reading that is too much work one could also call them up and ask.
Unfortunately, many CA FFLs do not understand the law, or follow it exactly, which one could argue was the intent of legislating complicated statutes in the first place.
Many non-firearm practicing attorneys do not understand the laws and that includes DAs, which is why these cases often end up with the Supremes.
Walmart got in trouble a few years ago for not following the (then) simple laws to the letter, which is why they no longer sell guns in CA.
Anyway...there it is...
"Supernatural divinities are the primitive's answer to why the sun goes down at night..."
Interesting, I have not read the "Law" but have had issues registering/receiving a firearm that does not have the DOJ approval form with the shipment. Both from an individual and an FFL. I am not surprised that the FFl's either don't know or don't care. My way or the highway mentality. If the form accompanies the firearm then no issues.
I’ve shipped a schit ton of firearms to FFL’s in California over the decades...both as a licensee (which was a pain in the a$$), because of all the hoops one has to jump through to get it done...and as a non-licensee (which is a piece of cake), because there are no hoops to jump through and no approval number is required when a firearm is being transferred to a California FFL by a private party.
I've shipped a bunch of rifles and only 1 to California. Never again. Had to do a bunch of extra paperwork crap. Been awhile but I think it had something to do with their approval list for what u can bring in and can't. May be different now. Its been awhile
I've shipped a bunch of rifles and only 1 to California. Never again. Had to do a bunch of extra paperwork crap. Been awhile but I think it had something to do with their approval list for what u can bring in and can't. May be different now. Its been awhile
California seems to think that there are people pretending to be FFLs who will somehow do something they don't like. The supposed purpose of the California Firearms Licensee Check System (CFLC) system is to verify that the shipping FFL is indeed a legitimate FFL.
What possible difference it could make when there is a receiving California FFL between the buyer and shipper is a mystery. Like most California laws, the true purpose is to make anything to do with firearms as awkward and expensive as possible.
As stupid as the system is, it takes as much effort to sign up for it the first time as signing up for a new forum. After that it takes about as much effort as posting to a forum to get the required confirmation letter.
California law requires its FFL dealers to do private party transfers, some or even most will make up every excuse imaginable for why they can't. Most won't follow throw and report their asses, so they get away with it. California sets what they can charge also, that's pretty much ignored too.
California law requires its FFL dealers to do private party transfers, some or even most will make up every excuse imaginable for why they can't. Most won't follow throw and report their asses, so they get away with it. California sets what they can charge also, that's pretty much ignored too.
They can, but lots of FFLs in CA will not deal with out of state transfers unless the shipping party is also an FFL. It's stupid, but CA FFLs tend to be very risk averse.
I have yet to find a FFL in CA that does NOT receive the only issue I have had is the cost $$$.
I've shipped a bunch of rifles and only 1 to California. Never again. Had to do a bunch of extra paperwork crap. Been awhile but I think it had something to do with their approval list for what u can bring in and can't. May be different now. Its been awhile
California seems to think that there are people pretending to be FFLs who will somehow do something they don't like. The supposed purpose of the California Firearms Licensee Check System (CFLC) system is to verify that the shipping FFL is indeed a legitimate FFL.
What possible difference it could make when there is a receiving California FFL between the buyer and shipper is a mystery. Like most California laws, the true purpose is to make anything to do with firearms as awkward and expensive as possible.
As stupid as the system is, it takes as much effort to sign up for it the first time as signing up for a new forum. After that it takes about as much effort as posting to a forum to get the required confirmation letter.
When the system was first put in a lot of dealers on gunbroker would not ship to CA until they saw the shops like Buds was making $$$$$$ selling to the 7 million CA gun owners.
