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Originally Posted by bluefish
Here is a question: I have been shooting the gun quite a bit. At 7 yards, no matter what I do when I hold the sight on the bulls eye I am 6 inches low. Operator error? Sights need to be different? Thoughts? Thanks.



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Great info. I'll keep.working.on it and will look for an NRA certified instructor.


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Originally Posted by bluefish
Great info. I'll keep.working.on it and will look for an NRA certified instructor.


So, we're looking at two questions:

1. How well does the gun shoot?
2. How well do you shoot?

Answer those questions in order. Find out how well the gun shoots first. If you are new to handgun shooting, have a proficient shooter shoot your gun. Somebody you trust when they say, "I can shoot your gun at 7 yards, and wherever the bullets go, that's where your gun shoots." At 21 feet, from a rest, 5 shots should be touching or at least darn close. The answer to this question might shed a lot of light on the answer to question #2.

As for instruction, look further than simply NRA credentials. NRA instructor credentials are basically sold, not earned. (I know, because years ago I bought some). If you have the money for the class and can hit a bull in the butt with a bass fiddle, you'll pass and be ordained as a NRA Certified Pistol Instructor. I am not criticizing such credentials, but they only cover the most basic principles of safe gun handling a marksmanship. Such credentials do NOT qualify the person to diagnose and remedy flaws in technique. I am certainly NOT saying that all NRA instructors are incompetent; I am saying that if your NRA instructor is awesome, it wasn't the NRA instructor class that made him that way.

I do wish you all the best! (And, hey, if your gun truly is shooting low, that's an easier fix than if it's shooting high. So at least you've got that going for you!)


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Bluefish I would shoot that pistol with your hands/wrists rested and determine whether it was me or the sights. Form your description it is shooting way low, particularly at the short distance involved.


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Originally Posted by winchester70
Has nothing to do with S&W pistols.

You are anticipating recoil and dropping the muzzle.This is more common than the cold for new handgun shooters.

You must learn to keep the sights aligned until after the recoil, not until just before recoil, follow through.

I think you are correct. Usually I see noobs yanking the trigger - so lefties going low and right. But given what this person has described, I think they anticipating the recoil.
The Shield is not the best gun for new shooters.

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Originally Posted by dla
[quote=winchester70]The Shield is not the best gun for new shooters.


After shooting one (friend's gun) a few times I have to agree.

Buying a 22lr revolver with adjustable sights at this point would not be an entirely bad idea. Consider parting company with the Shield

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Move closer to the target. Handguns are short range firearms. Never no need to be farther than 3 or 4 yards from the target. That way you wont see your bad habits as much and you will be able to hit a big target easier.
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Get training from a professional, keep the gun, and get a 22 to shoot shoot shoot. Be Well, Rustyzipper.


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Originally Posted by bluefish
If I may ask, are there good tutorials online for proper grip? I am LH and notice when I bring my right hand in to support my left hand it feels strange with the right palm area covering the left thumb. I am spending time with the firearm and the owner's manual before taking it to live fire.


I was helped by this one:



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That guy has more mouth than ten people and wonder how long he had to practice those hand gestures to make that video. He must have went to the same hand gesture school that Nancy Pelosi went to.
He is painful to watch.


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Originally Posted by 284LUVR
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[quote=winchester70]The Shield is not the best gun for new shooters.


After shooting one (friend's gun) a few times I have to agree.

Buying a 22lr revolver with adjustable sights at this point would not be an entirely bad idea. Consider parting company with the Shield

My 2 cents.


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Originally Posted by bluefish
Definitely. Snap caps for a pistol? Does one load a full magazine or just a couple?


You do not need snap caps for the EZ.

I recommend you not use them actually.


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Originally Posted by bluefish
Here is a question: I have been shooting the gun quite a bit. At 7 yards, no matter what I do when I hold the sight on the bulls eye I am 6 inches low. Operator error? Sights need to be different? Thoughts? Thanks.


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Since the subject of zeroing fixed sights keeps popping up, here's a note from Bill Laughridge of Cylinder& Slide on the topic, Worth a read.

https://cylinder-slide.com/PDFarticles/Fixing-Sights-Zeroing.pdf


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It's very common for many new shooters (and some not so new), to subconsciously anticipate the recoil and push into it, driving the muzzle down. Low hits.

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Your EZ is a fine choice.

S&W put a lot of design into that pistol to make it ergonomic and user friendly for folks who are not 'gun people'.

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That guy has more mouth than ten people and wonder how long he had to practice those hand gestures to make that video. He must have went to the same hand gesture school that Nancy Pelosi went to.
He is painful to watch.


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I only started shooting handguns around 2 years ago and I'm still far from experienced in the matter, but I found the videos by Paul Harrell on the topic very helpful.
He explains grip, stance and all the other essentials well and in a no-nonsense manner with a little bit of dry humour sprinkled in.
It even made learning on a .44 Mag Colt Anaconda (had no other gun to train with at the time) a fun and relatively simple affair.
Here, I put them in a YouTube playlist for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCR...MfWpad5FbrzzQg7REx0&index=2&t=0s


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you started with a 44? I can't imagine THAT learning curve.


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Wahoo and McDaniels and glory to all of you. I am sure you have satisfied the OP's question with your Illuminated help. A sincere thank you and a grand and glorious day, evening and night to all of you involved.


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