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The town of 25,000 people where I grew up in IL got hit last night. This isn't a suburb of Chicago, and it's in a deep red county. Hundreds of people showed up. My dad's office window got shattered as did a lot of other windows. Rubber bullets and tear gas deployed.

There were 20 protesters yesterday in downtown Hartford, WI. This is in the reddest county in the state.

This is being financed and organized internationally. It's going on in Europe. It's going on in my little hometown.

Don't think it's not coming to your doorstep unless you live way out in the country.

Yep, just like the Bolshevik revolution was funded, and by the same folks.

“IF”, and it’s an extremely remote “If”, it we’re to come to some of our towns.....the outcome may be much different than what is shown in the news! “If”, a store owner were at his/her business, and that business is being destroyed.....I believe that “Castle Doctrine and/or Stand YourGround”, will provide that owner the ability and the will to defend themselves and their property! memtb

The right to use whatever force is necessary to defend your property against rioters needs to be added explicitly to the laws for that to be the case. Currently, even in the states you speak of (with the possible exception of Texas), you need to credibly claim that you felt in imminent fear of serious injury or death to justify lethal force. Fear that your business structure was about to be damaged or destroyed (unless by arson) isn't sufficient, even in the most conservative states. Should be, but isn't, apart, perhaps, from Texas.

Also, it's going to get worse until the state and local govt's crack down instead of stand down. Rubber bullets and tear gas are not stopping this momentum.

They showed here yesterday, were confined to a small area, and controlled by police and locals. Three bus loads of out of town protesters!

If you are inside “said” business that is being destroyed by rioters, if you are “not” in fear for your life......your a fool! memtb

Including the emergency exits, of which there are few, there aren't many ways off a bus. I'm surprised they were even allowed to disembark.

I get what you're saying, but that wouldn't necessarily apply to folks outside smashing windows with bricks and snatching things from your display windows. It should, and that's where the law needs to change. During a riot, there needs to be a specific cut out in the law justifying lethal force if a rioting mob is threatening imminent destruction/looting of your business. I believe there already is such a law regarding arson. Just add rioting.

You persist in thinking that we have rule of law anymore in this country. There is an increasing number of men who did as you describe but who were relentlessly prosecuted while thier attackers were let off with no punishment.

From one of my brother's friends on FB in Austin yesterday. The guy was one of the cops blocking the protestors access to the Police Station.



Here's a photo the police officer took from the steps of the station.

BTW...

"ACAB" that you see in the signs means: All Cops Are Bastards.

Some here on the 'Fire may be among them.

In '18 Idaho enacted a stand your ground law that gives business owners a very strong case for deadly force. If anyone enters the business by force or unlawfully, even if there's no apparent threat to life, you can shoot them on the spot. Rioters in Idaho would stand a good chance of getting shot.


Idaho’s law protecting a person acting in self-defense gets clarified by the passage of Senate Bill 1313 – which goes into effect July 1st. The real impact is to consolidate and codify existing law to clearly protect the inherent right of a person to defend themselves and others. Idaho law permits a law-abiding citizen to stand their ground and protect themselves and families anywhere they have a right to be. SB 1313 also protects the right of a person to defend against intruders who enter the defender’s home or business unlawfully or by force, without having to demonstrate that he or she reasonably feared the intruder was about to cause death or great bodily harm. The entry by unlawful force establishes that the defender’s fear of serious injury was reasonable, so the use of self-defense was likewise reasonable.

There is a lot of debate about restrictions on gun ownership and use across the land, but Idaho remains committed to the notion that self-defense, including the use of firearms and deadly force, is a reasonable response to an unlawful attack on you or your family. The law doesn’t really change anything, but it clarifies the right to stand your ground in the face of an intrusion or attack on you or your family. The law had the backing of law enforcement and prosecutors.

Why can't governors secure their state borders ? Bus travel into or out of the state subject to inspection at state borders. Antifa and the like turned around or the entire busload arrested.

I recommend police just stand down for a few weeks and let the chips fall where they may.

Every state needs to clarify this right to defend a business against rioters, without having to prove imminent fear of bodily injury or death. That will put a stop to this.

Yep. As part of declared state of emergency.

No law authority myself but wouldn't much of what the 'so-called' protesters are and have done so far except for maybe arson in some circumstances fall under misdemeanor violations?

Good thing I don't live in a town and neither do any of my family members.

How do you know they came in on buses? Any photographic evidence by chance?