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The pandemic settling down enough that it's looking like a pre-planned prairie dog shoot in 3 weeks is a go. So that has us driving through Louisville, St. Louis, & Kansas City. Hopefully our timing will have us doing all that in daylight & missing a rush hour in at least two of them. But.

I've personally seen enough things things in those places over the years, not to have me scared, but to be very cautious. We won't be stopping if we don't have to. But a break down or a missed exit can have you in a pinch pretty quick. Been there, and things are only hotter at the moment. I don't plan to be mistaken for Reginald Denny.

How well prepared would you be if making that trip?

I've been through St. Louis a few times in years past, but I don't remember the routes we took. I do remember if you look at the maps you can find routes that swing wide around it on state highways, many of which are divided four lane. You have to be willing to trade drive time for convenience or safety. Sometimes you don't sacrifice time by going around if there's a fender bender on the interstate closer to town.

I'd be giving STL a wide berth.

As for avoiding inner city St. Louis, in the past I've exited 64 at 255 and crossed over the Mississippi from Illinois to Missouri at the bridge there. From there you'd just continue on on 270 then back on 64.

I have no reason to do that, I’m thankful

Avoid Illinois like the plague, and bypass St. Louis if at all possible. From your location, I'd drop down into Tennessee around Clarksville and cross the Mississippi river at Dyersburg, then find a way to travel around St. Louis to the west instead of going through the city at all. Interstate 55 approaches from the south, and there are several ways to make a wide loop around the St. L. metro area. Tennessee and Missouri are CCW-friendly areas- - - -Illinois isn't!
Jerry

I do what I can to travel in accordance with those states that offer me concealed carry reciprocity and avoid like the plague those that don’t.

I pick up I- 70 in St Louis when I travel out west. I get there via I-64. It gets you through the city easy enough.

I never spend the night in St Louis, however. I drive past it and spend the night in Columbia, Missouri. From Central Kentucky to Columbia is a decent days drive. From Columbia I drive on it to Colorado the next day.

It sounds like there is a concern over something that is of statistical insignificance. Might I say you have a tiny glimpse of what certain aspects of life are like for many black people?

I was traveling through East St. Louis on business, trying to get out of there as quickly as possible, when I saw a young lady with a small child trying to change a flat tire on her car. When I stopped and backed up to her car, I could tell she was terrified, at least until she saw my veteran's ball cap and my gray hair. Since I carry a small floor jack and a battery-powered impact wrench for just such situations, I got us both back on the road in short order. Yes, I was packing, even if it is illegal on that side of the river!
Jerry
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Is this really a thing? Some of you afraid to travel "thru" major metro cities?

Guess it's the same fear of some minorities traveling outside city limits and into the country.

It’s statistically insignificant until it’s not & fortune favors the prepared.

Last I knew there is no “race” restriction on concealed carry licenses anywhere in the country.

The same way I have always been...

I've studied maps & it's tempting to take back roads etc. but it could be a long trip. And I'm the only retired one with plenty of time on there hands. The leader of the four of us does despise Illinois politics & refuses to stop in the state there for anything. But sometimes you may not have a choice.

A trip using side routes would be a lot more enjoyable scenic wise, safer for sure. It would add a good bit of travel time or cut into the shoot. But I hear ya.

I stopped to get gas this morning.... a black guy was inside getting coffee...


Cant believe I survived to tell this story hahahahahaha


This website is fugging hysterical hahahahahaha the level of stupidity that I continue to read out of you twits is addicting. I keep coming back to see who can top who for the dumbass of the day award, and this one from the OP might win, though its early and Jag is still a member though taking his old man nap currently.... give it time

Shirley you jest ?

Miss the first sentence in my second paragraph ? "Seen personally" not cooked stats on a piece of paper.

The shoe still fits.

I'm not going to ANY of those places on my next trip, or any major metro areas, but I'm packing my Glock and three mags...



For point of reference, does that help answer your question?

I wouldn't worry about it unless there's news of Interstate's being blocked in St Louis,...which is unlikely. The way the interstate is configured in Louisville and St Louis, you don't pass through much "city". You can see a bit of ghetto from I-70 going through St Louis, but you don't get very close to it. St Louis is one of the easier big cities to get through. Kansas City is a bit more troublesome. Louisville can get fairly backed up during certain hours of the day. But I haven't been there since they completed the improvements on I-64. Traffic might flow more easily now.