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Originally Posted by Remsen
I think the Bill of Rights have been weaponized and now serve as a restraint on rights, as the left and the courts prioritize radical indoctrination and suppression of dissent over the right of the people to be individuals. If only one side plays by the rules, there aren't any rules.


YEP.

I just made this same point 2 minutes ago on another thread. The US Constitution is a brilliant document, being ruined by liberal courts, regulations (that become defacto law), and illegal state regulations.

Thanks for your insight.


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IIRC, although you’re an American, you went back and served in the Israeli Army out of a sense of cultural duty.

How would the Israelis be handling our current situation? Separating Arsonists, Antifa terrorists, and looters from peaceful protesters?

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There is no constitution in Israel and no real analog to the first, fourth or eighth (for the duck) amendments, and since it's been a state of war since 1948 the military and police have vast powers. And it's a small country, so it's easier to get Intel on troublemakers.

Those in charge of the violence would be detained and they'd be held until the authorities were sure the threat was over. If the thugs got violent, hospitals would be full gut shot thugs.


Oh, my...Shooting real bullets at thugs to remove them from the checker board. A crazy concept that make some Americans tummy’s turn...

But, we’re ok with people being victimized, assaulted, killed, and financially ruined by criminals with intentions other than peaceful protest.

Liberal America on display to the world.

Thanks, Brother Remsen.

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I think I've alluded to this before, but part of my legal practice is related to defending against claims of war crimes and crimes against humanity filed at the international criminal court. I've been working on a case brought against Israel for the way IDF soldiers shot rioters who breached the Gaza border and tried to enter Israel. For me, it's a bit personal, as my buddy's three sons are all in a unit that fights in Gaza.

In the 80s, when i served, the UN was not as psycho as it is now and most countries understood that we were fighting terror as an existential matter. So we did a lot of things that today would be avoided today. The international pressure is definitely a factor, but even now the soldiers will open fire as soon as lines are crossed.

It can be brutal and offensive to principles in the Bill of Rights, but it's often life or death. Personally, I think the Bill of Rights have been weaponized and now serve as a restraint on rights, as the left and the courts prioritize radical indoctrination and suppression of dissent over the right of the people to be individuals. If only one side plays by the rules, there aren't any rules.


Excellent way of putting things Remmy.

I'm glad though that we have "some" Constitutional protections. I'm not sure I want to live like they do in Israel, in that constant state of war, under what many times seems to by "martial law".

Thanks for the honest answers to Brr Beaver's questions.


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Hence, the new American struggle to overcome a social training that minority, downtrodden, or economically left behind people’s should have better protection while demonstrating at their oppressors.

Even when violence is the payment given for insult and injury - us the majority, is required to endure it without retaliation.

Something has to change, and it’s not just learning a new restraining hold while a person is on the ground.

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if you want to watch a really good program on netflix, try an israeli t.v. program called faudi. top rate.


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if you want to watch a really good program on netflix, try an israeli t.v. program called faudi. top rate.


Thanks, I will check it out.

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Originally Posted by Beaver10
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if you want to watch a really good program on netflix, try an israeli t.v. program called faudi. top rate.


Thanks, I will check it out.

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Yah, it's good


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Originally Posted by Beaver10
Hence, the new American struggle to overcome a social training that minority, downtrodden, or economically left behind people’s should have better protection while demonstrating at their oppressors.

Even when violence is the payment given for insult and injury - us the majority, is required to endure it without retaliation.

Something has to change, and it’s not just learning a new restraining hold while a person is on the ground.

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IMO it had nothing to do with restraint. 2:40 afternno pulse. Phucqk. Whitey was murdering darky for some reason that has yet been brought to the open. Having both been employed at the same place and time there's at least a high likelihood of something beyond the $20...


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Boomer,

No doubt the cop fûcked a cat in this situation. Without me guessing on important details, that will eventually come out. I’m figuring he’s gonna burn. To what degree? IDK.

Actuaries are costing out how much more insurance money will be paid out in riot damage should Chauvin get a lenient finding and procedural slap on the wrist.

Fed civil rights charges are gonna probably hurt him...If history is any indication.

My above post was speaking about the degree liberal politics and certain district court system will go to exonerate criminality by a mob of angry people on a civil rights issue, while forgetting the innocent victims who get harmed or attempt to defend themselves.

It’s as if the system is saying “How dare you protect yourself”....”These people are pissed and if you end up seriously hurt or killed, It was for the common good”

I find that to be utter fûck’n BS.

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Originally Posted by Beaver10
IIRC, although you’re an American, you went back and served in the Israeli Army out of a sense of cultural duty.

How would the Israelis be handling our current situation? Separating Arsonists, Antifa terrorists, and looters from peaceful protesters?

😎

Mackey Sagebrush had this post in the "it's coming to your town" thread.

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A little educational moment for some of y'all.

The Israelis have long been known to deal with violent protesters by simply taking down the primary aggressors. They put a suppressed .22 into them, wounding them. This usually has a very good deterrent effect with the crowds.

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That's worth a try.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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Eye for an Eye...Golda Meir?

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What about Moshe Dayan?

One eye.


He'd be much less likely to take that deal.

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Israel doesn't mess around.

In Israel they shoot "demonstrators" in the kneecap with .22 rifles.

They don't have very many riots.


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As much as I cherish the US Constitution, sometimes it provides a little too much protection to folks.

The ups and downs of being "free" I guess.



I'll respectfully disagree.

I think the US Constitution is damn near perfect.

3 letter gov't agencies that pass "regulations" (that become defacto law, a la EPA) supreme court rulings that become defacto law (never their charter), local and state liberal leaders that pass unconstitutional regulations...............

I could go on for an hour.

The Constitution is *not* to blame. Mankind, and their agendas, *are* to blame.


That's what I am referring to. The subsequent court rulings that have altered what the US Constitution, and specifically the Bill of Rights, was meant to do.



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Remsen,

On to worthwhile topics...

These were two-for-two at my local grocery store.

Aside from overpaying, what are your thoughts?

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Remsen,

On to worthwhile topics...

These were two-for-two at my local grocery store.

Aside from overpaying, what are your thoughts?

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That's some nasty stuff, deacon. If you are craving salty carbs, those mixes work, but it's so much better to make matzo balls from scratch. The mixes produce really light balls and I prefer dense sinkers, so i just use matzo meal, eggs, water and a bit of chicken fat. That's a real matzo ball.


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My neighbor said you can only make them from scratch whilst wearing a yarmulke.

At that, I draw the line.


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Remsen,

On to worthwhile topics...

These were two-for-two at my local grocery store.

Aside from overpaying, what are your thoughts?

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


This was gonna be my next question...

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Originally Posted by Remsen
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Originally Posted by Remsen
Originally Posted by Beaver10
IIRC, although you’re an American, you went back and served in the Israeli Army out of a sense of cultural duty.

How would the Israelis be handling our current situation? Separating Arsonists, Antifa terrorists, and looters from peaceful protesters?

😎


There is no constitution in Israel and no real analog to the first, fourth or eighth (for the duck) amendments, and since it's been a state of war since 1948 the military and police have vast powers. And it's a small country, so it's easier to get Intel on troublemakers.

Those in charge of the violence would be detained and they'd be held until the authorities were sure the threat was over. If the thugs got violent, hospitals would be full gut shot thugs.


Oh, my...Shooting real bullets at thugs to remove them from the checker board. A crazy concept that make some Americans tummy’s turn...

But, we’re ok with people being victimized, assaulted, killed, and financially ruined by criminals with intentions other than peaceful protest.

Liberal America on display to the world.

Thanks, Brother Remsen.

😎




I think I've alluded to this before, but part of my legal practice is related to defending against claims of war crimes and crimes against humanity filed at the international criminal court. I've been working on a case brought against Israel for the way IDF soldiers shot rioters who breached the Gaza border and tried to enter Israel. For me, it's a bit personal, as my buddy's three sons are all in a unit that fights in Gaza.

In the 80s, when i served, the UN was not as psycho as it is now and most countries understood that we were fighting terror as an existential matter. So we did a lot of things that today would be avoided today. The international pressure is definitely a factor, but even now the soldiers will open fire as soon as lines are crossed.

It can be brutal and offensive to principles in the Bill of Rights, but it's often life or death. Personally, I think the Bill of Rights have been weaponized and now serve as a restraint on rights, as the left and the courts prioritize radical indoctrination and suppression of dissent over the right of the people to be individuals. If only one side plays by the rules, there aren't any rules.




Gaza.

Geebus. Talk about a caldron.

I never really understood how much until I studied the geography more and found out who was in authority there.


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Originally Posted by Remsen
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Remsen,

On to worthwhile topics...

These were two-for-two at my local grocery store.

Aside from overpaying, what are your thoughts?

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


That's some nasty stuff, deacon. If you are craving salty carbs, those mixes work, but it's so much better to make matzo balls from scratch. The mixes produce really light balls and I prefer dense sinkers, so i just use matzo meal, eggs, water and a bit of chicken fat. That's a real matzo ball.


Screw that stuff 'flave.

get you some of them tater pancake mixes instead.

dang, I loves me some tater pancakes.


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