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Originally Posted by Hastings

I wouldn't say the cops killed Mr. Floyd and I sure don't believe they intended to kill him.


He was alive and talking to them while on the ground. WHO THE FUGG DO YOU THINK DID KILL HIM???

I do not believe they started out intending to kill him. I also do not believe they were concerned in the least if they did kill him, that would seem pretty obvious in that almost three minutes elapsed from the time he went unconscious until they ceased killing him. Regardless of the amount of intoxicants, regardless of his resistance, it is pretty obvious that no matter how you cut it, they did kill him and that any intoxicants were at that point only contributing factors. In the videos it is pretty clear that he went down and out in a gradual manner and that before he became unconscious that he had ceased any attempt at movement.

Please explain who you think did kill Floyd.

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You do know that opioid overdose shuts down the respiratory system and you stop breathing? Hint: Fentanyl


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Still doesn't change the fact that cop killed that guy. Anyone that watches that video from beginning to end and doesn't come up with that conclusion is f'ing delusional. Its almost comical the level of blinders some guys have on here haha. In no way shape or form do i endorse ANY of this BS going on in these cities but 100000% that cop killed that man. "Well you don't deal with those animals all day like he did". Quit then. If you cant mentally handle yourself in a job its time to move on.
I wouldn't say the cops killed Mr. Floyd and I sure don't believe they intended to kill him. But I do believe nobody should make a 20 to 30 year career out of being a policeman. No way it can be done without some serious effects, mostly mental. You can't do it without emotionally detaching yourself as concerns empathy for human suffering. At most I would say a 5 to 7 year hitch and then move on to something else. Maybe we could have something like a national police training, send the graduates out to local departments, and then a G.I. Bill type transition to something else.

I couldn’t do it.


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You do know that opioid overdose shuts down the respiratory system and you stop breathing? Hint: Fentanyl


Leaving aside everything else, do you understand the word homicide? The killing of one person by another. The ME has already made a finding that Floyd died as a result of homicide. That more or less ends foolish discussion. The questions remain of who did the homicide, how, and why. Only those questions. That's why I asked Hastings who he thought did kill Floyd. Maybe he has seen something I missed and someone else may be responsible. I did not see impairment to the point of losing consciousness in Floyd in any of the videos. I the intoxication to that point was observed by anyone then I would like an explanation how a man on the verge of losing consciousness would need 9 minutes of extreme restraint by 3 men on top of him.

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Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by k20350
Still doesn't change the fact that cop killed that guy. Anyone that watches that video from beginning to end and doesn't come up with that conclusion is f'ing delusional. Its almost comical the level of blinders some guys have on here haha. In no way shape or form do i endorse ANY of this BS going on in these cities but 100000% that cop killed that man. "Well you don't deal with those animals all day like he did". Quit then. If you cant mentally handle yourself in a job its time to move on.
I wouldn't say the cops killed Mr. Floyd and I sure don't believe they intended to kill him. But I do believe nobody should make a 20 to 30 year career out of being a policeman. No way it can be done without some serious effects, mostly mental. You can't do it without emotionally detaching yourself as concerns empathy for human suffering. At most I would say a 5 to 7 year hitch and then move on to something else. Maybe we could have something like a national police training, send the graduates out to local departments, and then a G.I. Bill type transition to something else.



Intent to kill is irrelevant under the Minnesota statute.


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As far as the criminal case is concerned, it was stupid to have this autopsy done and made public the way they did.

It's going to allow the defense an opportunity to establish that both reports are done by professionals/experts in their fields and came to two different conclusions.

The more the defense can blur everything else, and keep things in the scope of Graham factors, the more likely Chauvin will be acquitted.


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Originally Posted by MILES58
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
You do know that opioid overdose shuts down the respiratory system and you stop breathing? Hint: Fentanyl


Leaving aside everything else, do you understand the word homicide? The killing of one person by another. The ME has already made a finding that Floyd died as a result of homicide. That more or less ends foolish discussion. The questions remain of who did the homicide, how, and why. Only those questions. That's why I asked Hastings who he thought did kill Floyd. Maybe he has seen something I missed and someone else may be responsible. I did not see impairment to the point of losing consciousness in Floyd in any of the videos. I the intoxication to that point was observed by anyone then I would like an explanation how a man on the verge of losing consciousness would need 9 minutes of extreme restraint by 3 men on top of him.

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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
You do know that opioid overdose shuts down the respiratory system and you stop breathing? Hint: Fentanyl

Yes it was obvious even at the begining Floyd was about to die of an overdose.

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That wasn't really an "independent" autopsy................just sayin'.

I kinda think Baden has a vested interest.

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You do know that opioid overdose shuts down the respiratory system and you stop breathing? Hint: Fentanyl

Yes it was obvious even at the begining Floyd was about to die od an overdose

Please state your facts, Karen. Did you guys do telemedicine evaluations on him from the videos?


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It’s obvious here who lives in academia and hypothetical land

Don't forget Fantacy Land

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Originally Posted by 700LH
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
It’s obvious here who lives in academia and hypothetical land

Don't forget Fantacy Land

Ok, Karen. You got awfully quiet


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Originally Posted by MontanaMan
That wasn't really an "independent" autopsy................just sayin'.

I kinda think Baden has a vested interest.

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Originally Posted by MontanaMan
That wasn't really an "independent" autopsy................just sayin'.

I kinda think Baden has a vested interest.

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Please explain how the Hennepin County Medical Examiner is not an independent autopsy

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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
It’s obvious here who lives in academia and hypothetical land

Don't forget Fantacy Land

Ok, Karen. You got awfully quiet

Says Reno 911

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Originally Posted by MILES58
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That wasn't really an "independent" autopsy................just sayin'.

I kinda think Baden has a vested interest.

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Please explain how the Hennepin County Medical Examiner is not an independent autopsy

Liberal land . Boss said make it a homicide .


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Originally Posted by 700LH
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by 700LH
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
It’s obvious here who lives in academia and hypothetical land

Don't forget Fantacy Land

Ok, Karen. You got awfully quiet

Says Reno 911

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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
You do know that opioid overdose shuts down the respiratory system and you stop breathing? Hint: Fentanyl


Leaving aside everything else, do you understand the word homicide? The killing of one person by another. The ME has already made a finding that Floyd died as a result of homicide. That more or less ends foolish discussion. The questions remain of who did the homicide, how, and why. Only those questions. That's why I asked Hastings who he thought did kill Floyd. Maybe he has seen something I missed and someone else may be responsible. I did not see impairment to the point of losing consciousness in Floyd in any of the videos. I the intoxication to that point was observed by anyone then I would like an explanation how a man on the verge of losing consciousness would need 9 minutes of extreme restraint by 3 men on top of him.

Haha . Right


No, no Haha Right. One man is dead and another is about to lose a career and his freedom and may never legally possess a firearm again.

Haha Right is for jokes and this is about a fugging serious as it gets. You want to make ignorant suggestions then be a man and stand up and provide a rational basis for them.

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