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Released today...

Figures after I get a 6.5 Grendel they standardized a 6mm version. It isn’t just a necked down Grendel but close enough.

Looks fun and now I may end up needing another upper.


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Wish they’d done it with the TAC 6....no bolt vs limited pressure worries (the bolts may not be an issue anymore, but I’m sure the pressure is still kept lower) and same or better velocity, IIRC. Like to see how it does in 16-18....could be useful. The case head vs bolt vs pressure in an AR has always seemed like the Grendel case was hamstringing itself to me. If all else was the same, with a smaller case head/rim size, it could get out of its own way better....but it still does better than most in high BC needs/apps.

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It looks pretty promising. Hornady claims they get 2,700 fps with the 108gr ELD match bullets, having a bc of .536. Ar performance had 20" barrels on sale for $200.00 too, but they are currently sold out. The nice thing about it is availability of components and die sets, plus factory ammo. Maybe it will gain enough popularity to make it worth while, like the 6.5 cm.


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Originally Posted by beretzs
I dig it!


Me too. You guys probably got the emails from hornady and midsouth and other places, but the one from midsouth has a bunch of links about this new cartridge. They also have die sets. A big plus for guys looking for a good 6mm ar15. I wish my 6WOA had more support, like finding brass, die sets and load data. But WOA kinda has you bent over a barrel. Things like that will cause a cartridge to become obsolete. Hornady is doing it right with this cartridge.


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I like the sound of it. About what I'm getting with my 6 TAC but factory dies, brass, load data. A .224 versions may be better on paper but with regulations in many states requiring a .24 for big game it checks that box.

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This one has me thinking I need to get into the AR game. Now the only question is buy a complete rifle or build one.

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Originally Posted by elkchsr
This one has me thinking I need to get into the AR game. Now the only question is buy a complete rifle or build one.


Many ways to skin that cat. You can buy a complete upper, then build the lower, or buy a complete lower, or buy the parts and assemble it yourself, as well as buy a complete rifle over the counter. Here's a link Midsouth sent me on this new cartridge:


Midsouth links to 6mm ARC






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Originally Posted by elkchsr
This one has me thinking I need to get into the AR game. Now the only question is buy a complete rifle or build one.

You know I didn't need one until you told me about it!


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Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
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This one has me thinking I need to get into the AR game. Now the only question is buy a complete rifle or build one.

You know I didn't need one until you told me about it!



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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
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This one has me thinking I need to get into the AR game. Now the only question is buy a complete rifle or build one.


Many ways to skin that cat. You can buy a complete upper, then build the lower, or buy a complete lower, or buy the parts and assemble it yourself, as well as buy a complete rifle over the counter. Here's a link Midsouth sent me on this new cartridge:


Midsouth links to 6mm ARC






Thank you. Trying to decide the best way to go. I’d like to end up with something that is accurate enough to shoot out 400-500 yards. Looks like there are lots of good options out there.

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JBM says that the ELD 108 has 1.3 MOA less drift at 600yds @ 2750fps MV than a Sierra 80 .224 at the same specs.
Looks useful.


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Originally Posted by elkchsr
This one has me thinking I need to get into the AR game. Now the only question is buy a complete rifle or build one.


I feel the same. I don’t own an AR, but with the current environment, I have been thinking it was finally time to get one. I have put it off partly because there seems to be some debate regarding the adequacy of the 5.56 and ongoing discussion of a new service round. 6mm makes sense in a lot of ways.

I was real close to just going the 5.56 route, but now I will hold off a bit to see if the 6mm ARC takes off. It looks good to me.

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Slope,

Get one now in 5.56 and buy an upper or 6 ARC barrel and bolt later. It'll work on the same lower.

Now isn't the time to delay buying an AR, IMHO.


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Originally Posted by Slope77
Originally Posted by elkchsr
This one has me thinking I need to get into the AR game. Now the only question is buy a complete rifle or build one.


I have put it off partly because there seems to be some debate regarding the adequacy of the 5.56 and ...


You and I are not tied to FMJ's like the Military.so I don't feel that it's an issue.

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I have put it off partly because... ongoing discussion of a new service round.


Adoption of the Army's new round, rifle and SAW, is I believe like two years out... if it even happens this time. The Army has gone down this road in the past and done nothing. Though I feel this time may be different?

But, if the 6mm ARC is what moves you, go for it

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Originally Posted by Tyrone
JBM says that the ELD 108 has 1.3 MOA less drift at 600yds @ 2750fps MV than a Sierra 80 .224 at the same specs.
Looks useful.


8" less wind drift at 600 could mean a big difference in any discipline. Hunting or target shooting. I'd take it.


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I played with the Grendel in several bolt rifles and one AR. I came to the conclusion that it is better to use the designed for AR cartridges in AR's and use cartridges designed for bolt guns in bolt guns. In the same short action I would have to use for a 6MM ARC I could have it chambered for other more capable 6MM's.


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Originally Posted by rickt300
I played with the Grendel in several bolt rifles and one AR. I came to the conclusion that it is better to use the designed for AR cartridges in AR's and use cartridges designed for bolt guns in bolt guns. In the same short action I would have to use for a 6MM ARC I could have it chambered for other more capable 6MM's.


I dont see a need for it in a bolt gun. Too many good options readily available for it. In the AR platform, however, is where it will shine. Something a lot of the other guys in the other forums dont get is how limited of a selection we have with the AR15. We are limited to a certain oal (2.255" generally) on our ammo, so it feeds reliability. A lot of guys dont want to buy an ar 10, either, because they are bigger and heavier than a similarly built ar15. We have a better selection of ammo with the ar10, but the drawbacks literally outweigh the benefits at times.


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