24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,260
Fotis Offline OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,260
Is this enough power for the 223 as a varmint gun?
What say you?


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
GB1

Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 9,379
L
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
L
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 9,379
When I am on a stand my scope is set on 6x. It has an MQ reticle in the FFP. They have to be way out there before I adjust magnification. It works at 20 yards as well.


mike r


Don't wish it were easier
Wish you were better

Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that.
Craig Douglas ECQC
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,736
S
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
S
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,736
If you will be shooting PD's and such, then no. If on the other hand, it is to be used for coyotes and such OK.

Last edited by super T; 06/12/20.
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,423
S
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
S
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,423
Why not ?
I guess it depends on the distance and size of the receiving party.
I have a SAKO L46"Full Stock" triple deuce that had an old Weaver K6W for years; it worked just fine for groundhogs, fox, coyote, bobcats, crows and even a few unlucky ground squirrels.
I never felt under scoped.
The rifle currently wears a Swarovski AV 3-9X36mm, that usually stays on 6X.

StarchedCover

Last edited by StarchedCover; 06/12/20.

Semper Fi
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,921
J
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
J
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,921
I have a SWFA fixed 6X on my Ruger Predator 223. Not a lot of varmint hunting for me, but it makes a good range toy. I've shot it out to 400 yards with enough accuracy to hit most varmints. Having a clear scope with fine cross hairs is more important than a lot of X's in my experience.


Most people don't really want the truth.

They just want constant reassurance that what they believe is the truth.
IC B2

Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,641
B
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
B
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,641
Heavens no. You need at least 40x with an objective bell no smaller than 60mm, gathers a lot more light, you know, so you can shoot PDs in the dark, oh, and elevation turrets the size of baby food jars.

Note: The rings need 4 screws per side (total of 16) for that heavy recoil, and if the barrel twist is slower than 1 turn every 4 inches, chuck it in the dumpster with the other scrap metal.


Imagine a corporate oligarchy so effective, so advanced and fine tuned that its citizens still call it a democracy.



Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 16,512
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 16,512
I was very happy with a 8x36, yes, 36 mm non-AO on a 222 Rem 600......but a 223 can go a bit further.......a 12x will do all you need, but if you are running a sporter weight rifle, 8-10x on a top end should do most of what you need to do.

What size varmints, what distance?

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 15,746
M
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
M
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 15,746
My 222 howa mini has a 2 to 7 power and so far it seems ok. I am not a turret twister or 600 yard lead flinger though.

Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 27,920
A
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
A
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 27,920
The distance to target is more relative than the chambering IMO.


[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,697
R
RGK Online Content
Campfire Regular
Online Content
Campfire Regular
R
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,697
700 Rem in .223 and a 6X Weaver works fine for me. Plenty of power, but I don't shoot prairie dogs in Wyoming.
Bob

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

IC B3

Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,366
D
Campfire Tracker
Online Content
Campfire Tracker
D
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,366

On my 223's for PD's I use a variable usually set at 10X or occasionally 12X, at 6X you will find yourself wanting more magnification.

For coyotes or other varmints of opportunity I usually have it set on 6X.

drover


223 Rem, my favorite cartridge - you can't argue with truckloads of dead PD's and gophers.

24hourcampfire.com - The site where there is a problem for every solution.

Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,817
H
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
H
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,817
My 223 proly wear a 3-9x for yotes.
If chucks were around, 4-12x

Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,980
C
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
C
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,980
No, I like a 10 X

Joined: May 2003
Posts: 23,024
V
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
V
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 23,024
Fotis: For "predator" Hunting you could get by with 6 power.
For Colony Varmint Hunting you would be better suited with a high power variable scope - my suggestion would be a Leupold 6.5x20.
Best of luck to you with whichever you choose.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Joined: May 2002
Posts: 4,073
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 4,073
What ever you feel comfortable with.

Personally a straight 6x lacks the FOV for the type coyote calling I do so I use a number of 1.5-6x40mm scopes and find 6x plenty for long range coyotes.

For PD's and GS I's want more like a 4-16 or 6-24 or 6.5x20 on a rifle.


After the first shot the rest are just noise.

Make mine a Minaska

Heaven has walls and rules, H-ll has open borders
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,260
Fotis Offline OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,260
Thanks fellas


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 483
K
Campfire Member
Online Content
Campfire Member
K
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 483
I have a Leupold VX3 2.5-8 x 36mm with the B&C reticle on my Kimber Montana .223 calling rifle. Just right for the purpose. For prairie dogs I much prefer a 3.5-10 x 40 or better yet a 4.5-14-14 x 40 for that use on a .223.

Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 7,002
B
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
B
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 7,002
My CZ 527 .223 wears a 4.5-14X Burris. When calling dogs, it is usually set at 6x. For longer range prairie dogs and such, the 14x magnification can really help.


I'd rather be a free man in my grave, than living as a puppet or a slave....
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 425
C
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
C
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 425
My sporter weight .223 wears a 4-12 which has been fine for everything from antelope to prairie dogs. For the smaller targets at distance, usually set on 10 or 12. My heavier weight .223 wears a 6.5-20 which rarely gets past 12x due to the mirage when PD hunting. Both are at 6-6.5 x for larger targets.
YMMV
David

Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,422
B
Campfire Regular
Online Content
Campfire Regular
B
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,422
My brother has a Bausch & Lomb 6x Scopechief on his 222 Rem chambered Win 70A sporter. Works great for chucks. Nice thing about a 6x on a 222 Rem, is that you can spot your shot through the scope as the recoil and scope magnification match well. I have can 8x Leupold on my heavy barreled Sako 222 Rem, but I would be just fine with a 6x on it. A 223 chambered rifle shouldn't be much different.

If you are hunting faster moving targets up close, you may want lower power. Also depends on the weight of your rifle.

Overall, 6x is very useful.


"Behavior accepted is behavior repeated."

"Strive to be underestimated."
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

680 members (1234, 10Glocks, 10ring1, 01Foreman400, 160user, 10gaugemag, 69 invisible), 3,076 guests, and 1,250 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,191,267
Posts18,467,207
Members73,925
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.094s Queries: 15 (0.003s) Memory: 0.8923 MB (Peak: 1.0404 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-04-25 01:12:17 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS