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Am always slightly puzzled when both the Barnes TSX and Swift A-Frames are rated so highly, either by hunters or PHs. They work very differently. The A-Frames normally expand widely so don't penetrate nearly as deeply as TSX's in the same weights and caliber. In fact, in my experience would rate them at opposite ends of the spectrum as far as penetration.

That doesn't mean both aren't excellent bullets, but a number of bullets in between their differing parameters work equally well--which should be no surprise.


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Ate buffalo bullets anything like 'griz bullets?



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I used 300 grain North Fork soft points followed by 300 grain North Fork solids. One of the soft points we recovered was perfectly mushroomed and weighed 292 grains. I'm certain that other bonded bullets would work equally well.


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Benbo:

If I may be so bold, may I suggest you get a copy of Kevin Robertson's book: AFRICA'S MOST DANGEROUS. And, if you can locate a copy of: NYATI (The art of hunting the African buffalo) published by Mag-Set Publications (Pvt) Ltd. Website: www.african-hunter.com get a copy of this book as well. These two books contain a wealth of valuable information regarding the Cape buffalo. Viz: History of the animal, distribution, shot placement, selecting the right caliber, etc. Both books are informative, and easy to read.

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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Am always slightly puzzled when both the Barnes TSX and Swift A-Frames are rated so highly, either by hunters or PHs. They work very differently. The A-Frames normally expand widely so don't penetrate nearly as deeply as TSX's in the same weights and caliber. In fact, in my experience would rate them at opposite ends of the spectrum as far as penetration.

That doesn't mean both aren't excellent bullets, but a number of bullets in between their differing parameters work equally well--which should be no surprise.


And the good old Nosler Partition 'may' out penetrate them both.


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Benbo,
If you are shooting Winchester Fail Safe (aka ) Black Talon, they are superb on big tough critters. I used the 230 grainers in my .338 on a plains game hunt and was very pleased .
Woodleighs are also hard to beat. Took a buff with my 1895 .405 and a 400 grain Weldcore - went in behind the last rib, through innards including heart and out between the front legs; hard to beat.

My 1886 45-90 became a buff blasting machine using 450 grain Kodiak FMJ at 2150 fps. Took several buff and knocked down an ele. Much prefer the NF and Punch solids for ele though.

Have a good hunt.


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Benbo,
If you are shooting Winchester Fail Safe (aka ) Black Talon, they are superb on big tough critters. I used the 230 grainers in my .338 on a plains game hunt and was very pleased .
Woodleighs are also hard to beat. Took a buff with my 1895 .405 and a 400 grain Weldcore - went in behind the last rib, through innards including heart and out between the front legs; hard to beat.

My 1886 45-90 became a buff blasting machine using 450 grain Kodiak FMJ at 2150 fps. Took several buff and knocked down an ele. Much prefer the NF and Punch solids for ele though.

Have a good hunt.


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Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Am always slightly puzzled when both the Barnes TSX and Swift A-Frames are rated so highly, either by hunters or PHs. They work very differently. The A-Frames normally expand widely so don't penetrate nearly as deeply as TSX's in the same weights and caliber. In fact, in my experience would rate them at opposite ends of the spectrum as far as penetration.

That doesn't mean both aren't excellent bullets, but a number of bullets in between their differing parameters work equally well--which should be no surprise.


And the good old Nosler Partition 'may' out penetrate them both.


That’s because it shed it’s front end( the petals generally fall off on tough critters) and continues as a solid base- 😆

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jdollar,

Kind of, but not quite! :-)

Here are three Partitions recovered from game, a 286-grain 9.3, a 300 .375 and a 400 .416. The .375 and .416 both came from dead buffalo:

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LOL jdollar ; ]

Thanks for the photo MD, I have not used the big partitions in Africa yet, but do have loads with the:

300gr 375's at 2680
400gr 416's at 2400
500gr 458's at 2150

I have full faith they'll work, and work very well on any animal worldwide.


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I need to know where you got the North Fork 430 grain 404’s. NF is the best bullet I’ve ever shot. Thank you in advance

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100% agree ...North Forks are unequalled. Shot all my buff with them. When a 0.458 diameter turns into 0.820 diameter and 500 grains end up as 498 grains that one hell of a bullet.

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Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Am always slightly puzzled when both the Barnes TSX and Swift A-Frames are rated so highly, either by hunters or PHs. They work very differently. The A-Frames normally expand widely so don't penetrate nearly as deeply as TSX's in the same weights and caliber. In fact, in my experience would rate them at opposite ends of the spectrum as far as penetration.

That doesn't mean both aren't excellent bullets, but a number of bullets in between their differing parameters work equally well--which should be no surprise.


And the good old Nosler Partition 'may' out penetrate them both.

Absolutely. If noslers shoot in your rifle, I would use them exclusively. The problem with Noslers is they are the most consistently inaccurate bullets across all calibers I've ever used. The TTSXs and North Forks beat them by a long margin in this regard.


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Originally Posted by SafariLife
I need to know where you got the North Fork 430 grain 404’s. NF is the best bullet I’ve ever shot. Thank you in advance

https://reloadinginternational.com/search.php?s=North+Fork&x=0&y=0


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Great ! Thank you for the link

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You're welcome SafariLife.


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