Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire So, which of the 6 theories of Evolution do you unbelievers believe in?

Does it matter? An allegory is a story told to illustrate a point. So which is significant, the story or the point?

Seems a pretty weak faith if one feels the need to intentionally misrepresent the nature of theory in science in order to support their faith.

For folks who believe in actual physical world miracles
by Jesus, its likely to matter a whole lot.

seems your faith is different to many other Christians.

What If all the miracles are mere fables?..
Doesnt matter you say.

?? "Theory" is an explanation of what is observed as in Science. "Fact" is an ontological truth as in Philosophy. Very different things, don't try to mix 'n match.

And why is that unless they're lacking faith or reason?

Does faith determine whether all the miracles
of Jesus were fables vs actual performed miracles?

with 'enough faith', can you turn fables into
actual physical miracle events?

I don't know enough about any to say I believe in them, and am not interested enough to do the research to find out. I find I don't really care that much how it happened

Huh? Whether they happened or not doesn't matter. Faith and reason lead to an understanding of the moral truth which is being revealed. And that's what matters.

Made a dude in his own image
Yanked a rib and made a chick for him.

I read into that.

Personally I mix Creation and Evolution.
Dunno how long one of God's days was.
If a few million years, it seems to blend rather well.

It removes one argument, and tends to shut most people up (win win)
There are some young earthers that get rather rabid though.

They also seem to have other issues.

Thats your view as a catholic, many other Christians
(including many catholics) take it that Jesus performed
actual physical miracles... and to them such matters a
whole lot.

Many christians pray for miracles based on their belief
that they actually happened as recorded in Bible.

And that's the point of that silly Buckaroo Banzai clip I posted: However we came to this state of affairs we have to deal with it as we find it.

You already said that. But why should it matter? Without having performed miracles is God any the lesser?

BTW Catholics believe in miracles both by Jesus and by others in His name. Like saints. Many miracles have been recognized by the Church.

Those recognized by the church, we're they
Actual real miracles, or does the church take
Your view, that it doesn't matter if they were
actual miracles or not?




Why does the church bother to recognize alleged
miracles if they don't really matter?

Why would a mighty God bother to Perform
trivial inconsequential miracles for the church
to give value to?

This.

Watch this entire series, and you will understand that evolution is a reality.

Here's episode one:

The Hebrew language in genesis does not demand a 7 day 24 hour per day creation. In fact, the contrary.

Several stories or if you wish parables were allegories to illustrate a point. The good Samaritan, the Prodigal Son, Lazarus the Beggar, come to mind. I believe the bible while realizing you must sift out the additions and knowing a bunch was left out. The siege of Jericho story was pretty short, for that matter the 40 years wandering account is too brief. Jesus lived over 30 years and taught for over 3 years and a lot is missing and then he was misrepresented by Paul. I also believe in evolution. I've witnessed quite an evolution in our local wild hog population over the last 30 years. They are decidedly bigger, smarter, longer haired, and are shaped different. I wonder about people who are so certain of their knowledge or beliefs that they cannot entertain the idea they may be wrong.

Left to mother nature, wild feral hogs genetics lead them back to the hogs GOD originally made them.

I can see where HE isnt wrong.

All these ages, and yet no mongrelcatti or hippoelephanti is enough to convince me.

God bless you Jag.
You are a true representive of Jesus and his teachings.