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even in flagstaff you have this lunacy
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...voC7Jnd2NZz8ZLSP434KmTjSqSqz1q6EHY-bG9JE


The creators of this document are community members who are committed to imagining what Flagstaff will look like without policing. In an effort to address and abolish white supremacy in our community, we are seeking to begin serious conversations around defunding the Flagstaff Police Department. These demands remain a framework for imagining a Flagstaff without state-sanctioned violence toward our Indigenous, Black, and Brown neighbors; they are a way to sustain dialogue in our community around abolishing policing.


Before reading: Below you will find clear and organized talking points below that were directly adapted from 8toabolition.com and the #8toAbolition Campaign. These eight abolitionist demands have been adapted and contextualized for our community, with details attached to allow activists throughout Flagstaff to clearly demand that our City Council defunds the Flagstaff Police Department. These demands were not created by the owners of the Black Lives Matter Flagstaff Solidarity Action Group.


Please use this as a framework to write emails and scripted phone calls to the following elected officials: councilflagstaffaz.gov.


To submit a comment to be read at the public hearing on June 16th email publiccommentflagstaffaz.gov


Defund Flagstaff PD
We demand that Flagstaff City Council immediately retract all funding to be provided to Flagstaff Police Department.
We demand that Flagstaff City Council defunds the Flagstaff Police Department and uses the additional $24.7 million to demilitarize Flagstaff PD, provide additional funds to Flagstaff Unified School District to implement a district-wide restorative justice framework[1], provide and invest in community self-governance, provide safe housing for ALL Flagstaff residents, and invest in community-wide initiatives for free and accessible mental health services.
We demand that Flagstaff City Council reject any further proposed expansion to the Flagstaff Police Department’s budget or expenditures.
We demand that Flagstaff City Council begins by reducing Flagstaff Police Department’s budget in the 2020-2021 fiscal year beginning with a 50% reduction of funds. We demand the City Council of Flagstaff to pass a yearly budget reduction that will decrease the Flagstaff Police Department’s funding completely by the year 2024.
Demilitarize Flagstaff PD and Our Community
We demand that Flagstaff City Council immediately disarms all law enforcement in the city of Flagstaff, including the Flagstaff Police Department, private security, and school resource officers in the Flagstaff Unified School District.
We demand that Flagstaff City Council immediately retracts all funding for munitions or weaponry for the Flagstaff Police Department. We demand that Flagstaff City Council removes all currently supplied munitions and weapons from the Flagstaff Police Department.
We demand that the Flagstaff City Council stops accepting federal funding or assistance for the militarization of the Flagstaff Police Department.
We demand that the Flagstaff City Council immediately repeal all laws that allow, hide, or excuse any use of force or misconduct by the Flagstaff Police Department.
End Coconino County Sheriff's Office Collaboration with Immigration and Custom Enforcement
We demand that Sheriff Jim Driscoll stops accepting unconstitutional ICE Detainers from Immigration Custom Enforcement.
We demand that the Coconino County Sheriff's Office stops cooperating with Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
Remove Police from Flagstaff Unified School District, #CounselorsNotCops.
We demand that the City of Flagstaff immediately demands a removal of all police from Flagstaff Unified School District schools.
We demand that the City of Flagstaff dissolves its relationship and collaboration with Northern Arizona University’s campus police.
We demand that the Flagstaff City Council demands an end to Flagstaff Unified School District’s Positive Behavior Interventions and Supports (PBIS) disciplinary model in favor of initiating a district-wide restorative justice framework. We demand that the Flagstaff City Council provides funding to the Flagstaff Unified School District to begin to plan for and later implement a district-wide restorative justice framework.
Free People from Jails and Prisons
We demand that the Flagstaff Police Department permanently closes all local jails.
We demand that the Flagstaff Police Department immediately frees all people currently in local detention, beginning with our Indigenous and undocumented community members.
We demand that the Flagstaff Police Department immediately halts the possibility of arrests in Flagstaff, Arizona.
We demand that the Flagstaff Police Department ends pretrial detention and immediately releases all detainees who are awaiting trial or are being held on parole violations.
We demand that the City of Flagstaff makes all communication (i.e. phone calls) from the Coconino County Detention Facility free and unlimited for all detainees.
Repeal Laws That Criminalize Survival
We demand that the Flagstaff City Council immediately repeals Flagstaff City Ordinance 6-01-001-0022 to allow the legalization of public camping for our homeless community members.
We demand that the Flagstaff City Council immediately allocates $1 million in additional funding to be provided to Flagstaff Shelter Services.
We demand that Flagstaff City Council immediately repeals all laws and local ordinances that criminalize the occupation of public spaces, especially in reference to our homeless community members.
We demand that the City of Flagstaff and the Flagstaff Police Department absolve all fines and fees associated with the criminal legal process.
Invest In Community Self-Governance
We demand that the City of Flagstaff and the Flagstaff Police Department increase the frequency at which they meet and communicate with the Citizens Liaison Committee.
We demand that the Flagstaff City Council holds an online open forum during which Flagstaff community members can openly voice their concern over police brutality and policing in the city of Flagstaff. Flagstaff Police Department and Flagstaff City Council must be in attendance and unpermitted to speak.
We demand that the Flagstaff City Council establish four neighborhood councils as representative bodies within municipal decision making in addition to the Citizens Liaison Committee.
We demand that the Flagstaff City Council launch an immediate assessment of community needs to provide data for investing in community-based resources.
We demand that the Flagstaff City Council invest additional funding from the removal of the Flagstaff Police Department into community-based public safety approaches that are non-violent and non-carceral.
Provide Safe Housing for Everyone
We demand that the Flagstaff City Council cancels rent and all mortgages in Flagstaff, Arizona without burden of repayment throughout the duration of the COVID-19 pandemic.
We demand that Flagstaff City Council repurposes all empty buildings, houses, apartments, and hotels to our homeless community. Such buildings should be immediately resigned to the control of Flagstaff Shelter Services.
We demand that Flagstaff Shelter Services ends its functioning relationship with Flagstaff Police Department and begins to address issues of racism and discrimination in their organization.
We demand that the Flagstaff City Council provides unequivocal financial support to all refugees and undocumented persons in our municipality.
We demand that the Flagstaff City Council immediately establishes permanent and adequate housing for all displaced or homeless Indigenous peoples in Flagstaff, Arizona. We demand that this housing project is controlled and planned by Indigenous Liaison Rose Toehe.
Invest In Care Not Cops
We demand that the Flagstaff City Council immediately allocates funding from the Flagstaff Police Department’s budget to establish free and accessible healthcare facilities.
We demand that the Flagstaff City Council immediately establishes two detoxing facilities throughout the City of Flagstaff to provide a non-carceral solution to public intoxication for all Flagstaff residents.
We demand that Flagstaff City Council allocates funding from the Flagstaff Police Department to provide additional funding to Flagstaff Unified School District to hire additional counselors at every public school.


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Not surprising, Flagstaff is kinda like a mini Seattle.

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Terminal stupidity.


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"We Demand ....!!!"

Standard instructions by the communists to the running dog capitalist pigs. mad

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This should go over good with victims rights groups,eh?
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We demand that the Flagstaff Police Department ends pretrial detention and immediately releases all detainees who are awaiting trial or are being held on parole violations.


and this might just be about the only thing that sorta makes some sense, as jailing them never has seemed to have any effect. Perhaps detox and introduce them to available treatment options. Maybe better than taking up space in a cell?

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We demand that the Flagstaff City Council immediately establishes two detoxing facilities throughout the City of Flagstaff to provide a non-carceral solution to public intoxication for all Flagstaff residents.


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i put that link on a local fb page in my home town. in ten minutes or so at leas50 hits, till they pulled it. probably expect to get banned shortly.
oh well.


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Wont go anywhere, maybe they can get the Navaho nation to fund the detox facility. Might save some lives.


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Originally Posted by RoninPhx
i put that link on a local fb page in my home town. in ten minutes or so at leas50 hits, till they pulled it. probably expect to get banned shortly.
oh well.



Maybe Olive Cunny will make a return.....or that FOX dude! LMAO


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"Community self-policing."

This from people who won't even practice the common courtesy of returning shopping carts at the grocery store--or at least parking them in the little cart-corrals--because there's no law demanding that they do so and no prescribed punishment if they do not, despite the fact that it is simply the right thing to do. I don't see self-policing ever happening in this me-bubble society. It's not easy and convenient, and there's little to no opportunity for narcissistic self-aggrandizement via selfies and tweets.

I also don't see police departments at any level giving up one cent of funding--local, state, or federal--without a serious fight. They're just like any other publicly funded organization or official; the top priority is the maintenance and expansion of the official's or organization's power and influence, and the budget must be bigger every year. They may use prettier, more professional language and produce impressive sounding mission statements, but in the end they want the same free TVs the thugs, er, protesters do.


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I visited Flagstaff last year for a few days. I remember telling myself it might have been the whitest place I’ve ever been. There was a few Indians, but it was extremely white.

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Originally Posted by Ejp1234
I visited Flagstaff last year for a few days. I remember telling myself it might have been the whitest place I’ve ever been. There was a few Indians, but it was extremely white.

you didn't look hard enough, more than a few indians wander through there.


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Originally Posted by DeadHead
Not surprising, Flagstaff is kinda like a mini Seattle.


More like a mini (very mini) Austin.

Surprisingly good University. Great town to live in. 4 Seasons. Bear and Lion tags over the counter. Close to Grand Canyon. 2 hours to International airport. Supports a CAL Ranch and a Sportsman's Warehouse, as well as 2 independent gun stores, an archery shop and Gary Reeder.

2 Walmarts and 3 McDonalds! Got to love that! Nobody in MT has got that I reckon!

100" of snow a year, 300 days of blue sky. Fishing sucks. But I hate to fish, so that works out!

Trauma 1 Hospital and a ski area. Every kind of elementary school from a Tri-Lingual public school to k-12 Basis School.

All kind of people. smart ones, dumb ones, in-between ones. 2 public high schools and 3 charter high schools, at least.

Good Mexican food. Good Pizza. Steak places, hamburger places, couple of locally owned diners.

If I won the lottery, I wouldn't move.


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Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by DeadHead
Not surprising, Flagstaff is kinda like a mini Seattle.


More like a mini (very mini) Austin.

Surprisingly good University. Great town to live in. 4 Seasons. Bear and Lion tags over the counter. Close to Grand Canyon. 2 hours to International airport. Supports a CAL Ranch and a Sportsman's Warehouse, as well as 2 independent gun stores, an archery shop and Gary Reeder.

2 Walmarts and 3 McDonalds! Got to love that! Nobody in MT has got that I reckon!

100" of snow a year, 300 days of blue sky. Fishing sucks. But I hate to fish, so that works out!

Trauma 1 Hospital and a ski area. Every kind of elementary school from a Tri-Lingual public school to k-12 Basis School.

All kind of people. smart ones, dumb ones, in-between ones. 2 public high schools and 3 charter high schools, at least.

Good Mexican food. Good Pizza. Steak places, hamburger places, couple of locally owned diners.

If I won the lottery, I wouldn't move.


every once in a while you post something that makes you seem completely normal.
this is a near perfect assessment of Flagstaff. Dont forget meteor crater is nearby.


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I love Flagstaff. I stay there and use it as a base to operate out of to climb and hike all over that part of the state...from Grand Canyon down to Sedona.


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my relationship with flag goes back through family to the1800's. my dad remembered the first auto in flag, scared all the livestock.
my grandfather had a pair of mules and a buckboard.
it's gotten a little more civilized these days i remember as a kid the drunk navajo's fighting on rte 66, navajo women just lifting their skirts on the street to do a pee, but i also went to NaU which sycamore was talking about in the late 60's and early 70's our version of peace and love.
i had hair down to my shoulder till i met this little mormon girl, she said i would need a haircut and shave to get anywhere with her. i did and i did.
it had it's hippy element deriving from the school even then.


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Originally Posted by Leanwolf
"We Demand ....!!!"

Standard instructions by the communists to the running dog capitalist pigs. mad

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I DEMAND that when anywhere defunds the police department that people are allowed the right to shoot activists, looters, leftist, communists, Antifa Punks...
they could care less what i DEMAND, so In return I could care less what they DEMAND...

They are communist within our borders and out upon our Streets...

Communists need to be treated like communist...

and if they utilize violence to get their way, then they need to be ....


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Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by DeadHead
Not surprising, Flagstaff is kinda like a mini Seattle.


More like a mini (very mini) Austin.

Surprisingly good University. Great town to live in. 4 Seasons. Bear and Lion tags over the counter. Close to Grand Canyon. 2 hours to International airport. Supports a CAL Ranch and a Sportsman's Warehouse, as well as 2 independent gun stores, an archery shop and Gary Reeder.

2 Walmarts and 3 McDonalds! Got to love that! Nobody in MT has got that I reckon!

100" of snow a year, 300 days of blue sky. Fishing sucks. But I hate to fish, so that works out!

Trauma 1 Hospital and a ski area. Every kind of elementary school from a Tri-Lingual public school to k-12 Basis School.

All kind of people. smart ones, dumb ones, in-between ones. 2 public high schools and 3 charter high schools, at least.

Good Mexican food. Good Pizza. Steak places, hamburger places, couple of locally owned diners.

If I won the lottery, I wouldn't move.


Been there many times, my comment was more about the high percentage of hipsters and other morons in the city limits. Surrounding area is awesome though

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everybody loves it, even hipsters and morons.

why wouldn't they? they probably like it for the mountain biking, health food stores, climbing, breweries, and hairy legged hippie chicks!

To each his own!


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Originally Posted by Ejp1234
I visited Flagstaff last year for a few days. I remember telling myself it might have been the whitest place I’ve ever been. There was a few Indians, but it was extremely white.


Should have gone to LaFonda for the Special of the Day, whatever it is. You will say a lot about La Fonda, including great food and cheap drinks...but you won't say "extremely white" grin


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