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All DOT approved tires won't pull worth a crap in gumbo mud, marl or baby yellow. Chains are a must have for anyone who ventures off road.


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Originally Posted by mainer_in_ak
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Yah the all terrain with a three peak snowflake rating is the way to go, value wise. One set of tires for all season here in Alaska.

BFG AT, Goodyear Duratrac and Falken AT3W all have it. Of those three, the Duratracs are the best in mud. Falken are ok, but mine are made in Taiwan.

BFG AT ko2, though good on ice and snow, are terrible in the mud. With front and rear differential lockers engaged on an 80 series landcruiser, they still sucked on my muddy road that has no state service. Could barely get out even with lockers in spring.


Nitto Exo Grapplers outperform the BFG KO2 and DuraTracs on a 3/4Tn truck in slippery (ice/snow) and muddy conditions.


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All DOT approved tires won't pull worth a crap in gumbo mud, marl or baby yellow. Chains are a must have for anyone who ventures off road.

Chain a 4wd in snow/ice and it's amazing how good you can get around.

Even just the front end makes a hell of a difference just dont try to set any speed records.


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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
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All DOT approved tires won't pull worth a crap in gumbo mud, marl or baby yellow. Chains are a must have for anyone who ventures off road.

Chain a 4wd in snow/ice and it's amazing how good you can get around.

Even just the front end makes a hell of a difference just dont try to set any speed records.



If ya got the clearance on body parts......

this is the way to go in mud


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Utah mud.......as most others.....

Chains........


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If you don't have the clearance on the front of a 4x4 and you chain up the back; do you run in 4 wheel drive???


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Originally Posted by Reba
If you don't have the clearance on the front of a 4x4 and you chain up the back; do you run in 4 wheel drive???


Sure seems like you'd be putting a lot of bind/chattering into the system. Sometimes you do what you've gotta do, but, I sure wouldn't do it often or for very far. YMMV


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Originally Posted by horse1
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If you don't have the clearance on the front of a 4x4 and you chain up the back; do you run in 4 wheel drive???


Sure seems like you'd be putting a lot of bind/chattering into the system. Sometimes you do what you've gotta do, but, I sure wouldn't do it often or for very far. YMMV


I there is enough snow, ice or mud to need chains you will get enough tire slippage/spin at each individual tire that binding should not be a problem.

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I have had Coopers on my 2002 F-350 Crew Cab 4x4 since I got wise and got rid of the Firestone POSs that came on it. I have been in mud in New Mexico, Wyoming, Arizona and here in CA and the Coopers have done well. They clean out while driving, throwing mud everywhere. I bought the truck new and it is used mainly for hunting and occasionally for towing our toy hauler. I think this is my third set. I live in the high desert near the Mojave Preserve and the truck gets out there, rain or shine or snow.


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