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Put in for a cow tag. Struck out.

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I always put in for Cali Sheep in Idaho, so I can't put in for the good deer or elk draws. I guess the 2nd draw is always an opportunity...



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Originally Posted by iddave
Nada for me as well.

I’ll be slumming it OTC again this year. I’m used to it. I’ve drawn one tag in 26 years.

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Dave, everyone always touts Idaho’s draw system, I’ve applied for deer, elk and antelope, all 3 for 20 years, haven’t drawn a damn thing...


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Jud,

I know many don’t like Idaho’s approach, but I honestly wouldn’t have it any other way. Preference points and bonus points are a pyramid scheme imho, and screw incoming hunters like my son and daughter.

Idaho’s system may suck....but it sucks equally for all of us.

I only apply for REALLY good tags (with low draw odds), so I can’t really complain and I’m certainly never surprised when I don’t. It is what it is. I usually manage to do okay with the OTC tags.

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Do Powerball or MegaMillions give preference points? Nobody seems to complain about that. You take your chances equally with everyone else who buys a ticket.


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Idaho's system is the only fair one. I've been persistent and lucky. Points and bonus point systems are a cash cow for the F&G outfits, nothing more!
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Originally Posted by Judman
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Nada for me as well.

I’ll be slumming it OTC again this year. I’m used to it. I’ve drawn one tag in 26 years.

Dave


Dave, everyone always touts Idaho’s draw system, I’ve applied for deer, elk and antelope, all 3 for 20 years, haven’t drawn a damn thing...



I got a lifetime license before I left the state...which means my name gets thrown in the hat with the residents. I always put in for a Cali sheep tag so obviously odds still suck but I'm running right at 20 years trying. It's frustrating but is what it is.....



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no luck here.

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1 Archery Antelope tag - haven't drawn a rifle tag for deer or elk in way too long. Open rifle deer hunts = shoot a 2 point on opening day or don't get a deer. Archery hunts have become extremely crowded. I'm lucky I'm as old as I am and got to see what it was like before the State's population doubled and the Idaho Department of Money (err Fish and Game) fixed the draw system.......


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I consistently draw elk tags in 3 different states. I WANT TO HUNT, i could care about big bulls, big, bucks or other "big" animals, I just want to hunt. So if you want to draw a tag and hunt, put in for cow tags, spike tags, late season opportunities. It's not about the size of the animal it's about HUNTING. There are numerous outlets online as well as on F&G websites that show you draw percentages, success ratios, and the like using them is easy, even for a computer idiot as myself.

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is there a lottery oversight for drawing? I think they should publish the result.

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Originally Posted by centershot
1 Archery Antelope tag - haven't drawn a rifle tag for deer or elk in way too long. Open rifle deer hunts = shoot a 2 point on opening day or don't get a deer. Archery hunts have become extremely crowded. I'm lucky I'm as old as I am and got to see what it was like before the State's population doubled and the Idaho Department of Money (err Fish and Game) fixed the draw system.......



It's certainly not as good as when I started hunting Idaho in the mid-80s, but there are still a lot of good bucks and bulls to be killed in Idaho with OTC tags. Unless people stop having babies, that dynamic isn't fixable by anyone or any "system".

Most importantly to me (and most Idaho hunters I know), there still a LOT of OTC tags available. States like Utah, New Mexico, Arizona and the like might have easier hunts and bigger animals on average, but none of them offer the opportunity Idaho does for the "average" guy to simply go out and pursue bucks/bulls/bears year after year.

Any changes that decrease those OTC opportunities is movement in the wrong direction imho. You know what they say about opinions though.

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Gonna have to be some management changes in several states as well, Washington, Oregon and Idaho for sure. States Oregon and Wyoming where the lions share of permits go to max point holders are flawed too, unless you got in on the ground floor, like I did in Wyoming a guy will never hunt one of the premier units more than once if he’s lucky. I’m still greedily holding onto my Wyoming points, waiting for the best units. Until then I’ll bitch about draw systems, or be happier than a pig in shiit when I draw!! Until then there’s several hunts a guy can do yearly if he’s savvy and snoops around a little.


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Originally Posted by iddave
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1 Archery Antelope tag - haven't drawn a rifle tag for deer or elk in way too long. Open rifle deer hunts = shoot a 2 point on opening day or don't get a deer. Archery hunts have become extremely crowded. I'm lucky I'm as old as I am and got to see what it was like before the State's population doubled and the Idaho Department of Money (err Fish and Game) fixed the draw system.......



It's certainly not as good as when I started hunting Idaho in the mid-80s, but there are still a lot of good bucks and bulls to be killed in Idaho with OTC tags.


Correct. Lots of them. Every year.
The average may be a 2x2 but that's because lots of folks shoot the first legal thing they see. There's nothing wrong with that, but plenty of mature deer and elk are in the general areas.



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A 2x2 mulie will often be hanging out with a bunch of does his 1st year. Those who hunt near the roads will find him as the does are easier to find. The bigger bucks will be high and hidden, not with the does until the rut starts in Nov.


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Younger boy drew the 55/57 youth buck tag for the Oct.5-31 timeframe. Have heard that there are some large-ish 2x2s in that neck of the woods!

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Lots of places have bigger 2x2s, but units 55 and 57 sure have some big 4x4s too. The genetics are there, no doubt.

Good luck with that hunt.



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Originally Posted by T_Inman
Lots of places have bigger 2x2s, but units 55 and 57 sure have some big 4x4s too. The genetics are there, no doubt.

Good luck with that hunt.



I like 2x2's.😂😂😂


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Younger boy drew the 55/57 youth buck tag for the Oct.5-31 timeframe. Have heard that there are some large-ish 2x2s in that neck of the woods!


55 will be a great hunt.post pics.


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Lots of places have bigger 2x2s, but units 55 and 57 sure have some big 4x4s too. The genetics are there, no doubt.

Good luck with that hunt.



I like 2x2's.😂😂😂


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