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Just so happens I was raised on sizzling Roys,
so when it comes to 257r, I'd like to know how it
performs with say premium projectiles 100-120
weight on big porkers.

Is like 100 grain A~Frame all I really need?







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On big porkers? Big as in over 200 pounds? With the 100 gr. Ballistic Tips I shot 1 fat one weighing 175 pounds. Neck shot worked great. Shot an 80 pounder in the face, worked great. Beyond that no experience.


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I don't have personal experience with it, but met an elk hunter who had killed 17 elk with his; he had no complaints. He used partitions. I reckon it should work on pigs with a good bullet in the right place.


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Works great with handloaded 120s at 2800 to 2900fps.

Last fall had a 257 loaded with 100gr Hornadys at 3000fps, when I ran across a good size hog. It worked great, too.

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100 gr. Barnes at 3150 worked on this big boar. He was well over 200 lbs. Shot him in the ear about 175 yds.

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I have shot several 200 lb hogs with the .257 Rbts. I used 100 grain Hornady Interlock with complete satisfaction.

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I took out some pork in 2015 w/ 90 GMXs doing 3200-ish. One was a rather large boar DRT with shot to base of skull and another shot as he was running straight at me. I hit him in the skull and found the base of the bullet in ham.

Amazing.

I’d not hesitate to go with 90s, 100s, 110s, 115s, 117s, or 120s on pigs from Bob. Nice thing is it’s easy on bullets due to relatively mild velocities. As with any cartridge shot placement is key.

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I have come to like the 110 grain AB for its balance of accuracy, penetration, and velocity potential in the 25 Souper, 257R, 257AI, 25 WSSM, 25-284, and 25-06.

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Have crumpled "big porkers" with the 115 Partition behind the shoulder, started at 2900 fps.

But that does not happen all the time with any cartridge or bullet on pigs. But then again, it does not happen with almost any other cartridge/bullet combination either. The best way to crumple pigs (aside from a brain shot) is to put a bullet that penetrates OK in the center of the neck, just in front of the shoulders. It will either take out the spine or the mass of blood vessels alongside the spine.


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Here's a link to some .257R loads and data.

Some B.S. too... But this IS the Fire....

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/10301462/5

100 TTSX or E-Tip at 3,250 fps over H-100V, the velocity champ, is a proven killer.

115's with H-4350 work well, too.

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In my opinion, the 257 Roberts is an excellent, VERY under rated cartridge! It is better than the 243 Win. as a combination varmint/deer cartridge.

Too bad it is not more widely chambered and promoted.


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Gun Gack load of 47.0 gr of Ramshot Hunter under a 100 gr TTSX is a great shooting load at 3,000 + fps out of my M77 with 22” barrel.

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The Barnes manual has stories from satisfied Barnes bullets users. One of them is a woman moose guide, who killed her moose with a 257 Roberts and a 100 grain (I think) Barnes bullet. Works for her.


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Originally Posted by WAM
Gun Gack load of 47.0 gr of Ramshot Hunter under a 100 gr TTSX is a great shooting load at 3,000 + fps out of my M77 with 2” barrel.

Damn, that's a short barrel for a BOB, LOL! I think you meant 22" not 2".

My Bob AI pushes a 115 grain Combined Technologies Ballistics Tip at 3000 FPS which makes short work of Porky. But I don't shoot boars intentionally anymore. I'd rather have a 100 pound sow any day. I eat 'em and boars are nasty. But it makes no big difference. My wife killed a big ol' boar at 50 yards with a .243. Hit 'em right, no matter how far, 50-100-200 yards, and they go down immediately if not sooner.

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My daughter and both of my grand-sons have used a 257 Roberts to kill elk on several occasions. All kills were made with 120 grain Nosler Partitions and 115 grain Barnes TSX bullets and all were 1 shot kills.
None of us have ever killed pigs, but elk running from 450 up to about 800 pounds fell to the 257 Roberts just fine when hit with the right bullets. So I bet you'd have no problems at all with pigs from 200 to 400 pounds.

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Anyone else notice that the old Roberts, hand-loaded with 115-120 grain bullets (which is all that’s needed for deer/pigs a “normal” hunting ranges) is a ballistic twin to the vaunted 6.5CM.

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Originally Posted by WAM
Gun Gack load of 47.0 gr of Ramshot Hunter under a 100 gr TTSX is a great shooting load at 3,000 + fps out of my M77 with 2” barrel.

Try H-100V with the 100 gr. TTSX (or E-Tip). Velocity is into 25-06 territory without excessive pressure. And out of my 24" Brux, great accuracy. This combo is a real killer. Note COAL longer than SA 2.8". This a 700 LA, so no problem with 2.9+" COAL. The throat is also longer.

IMO, the optimal action length for the Roberts, Swede. 7x57 and similar would be 3". The 3.4" LA is a bit excessive for the Roberts, but was set up so well, I can place rounds anywhere in the box mag and they feed smooth as silk. In fact, this is one of the slickest feeding rifle I have. It's all in the skill of the smith. This rifle was put together some years ago by Ronald Lampert, MN, a master smith.

H-100V is sort of a niche powder, not the most temp stable, but very efficient and clean burning. Where I hunt, temp stability isn't critical.

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Here is my Roberts in it's latest and likely final stock, a McM Hunter's Edge, Flat Dark Earth with Olive specs. Conquest 3-9x40.

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Originally Posted by southtexas
Anyone else notice that the old Roberts, hand-loaded with 115-120 grain bullets (which is all that’s needed for deer/pigs a “normal” hunting ranges) is a ballistic twin to the vaunted 6.5CM.


Yep. I consider the 257Roberts, 260/6.5CM/6.5x47L, and the 7mm-08 to all be on fairly equal footing when shooting game bullets of 100-130gr. You can run the lighter mono bullets at 3,000-3,200 or the traditional stuff at 2,800-2,900, but they all kill pretty dang well without a lot of recoil. I'd certainly feel like I had enough gun for pigs with a Roberts shooting the 115/120gr Partition at 2,800 to 2,900.


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Originally Posted by JPro
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Anyone else notice that the old Roberts, hand-loaded with 115-120 grain bullets (which is all that’s needed for deer/pigs a “normal” hunting ranges) is a ballistic twin to the vaunted 6.5CM.


Yep. I consider the 257Roberts, 260/6.5CM/6.5x47L, and the 7mm-08 to all be on fairly equal footing when shooting game bullets of 100-130gr. You can run the lighter mono bullets at 3,000-3,200 or the traditional stuff at 2,800-2,900, but they all kill pretty dang well without a lot of recoil. I'd certainly feel like I had enough gun for pigs with a Roberts shooting the 115/120gr Partition at 2,800 to 2,900.

Well stated and very true.

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Originally Posted by Dixie_Rebel
In my opinion, the 257 Roberts is an excellent, VERY under rated cartridge! It is better than the 243 Win. as a combination varmint/deer cartridge.

How is the 257Roberts better than the 243?

Before you flame me ... FYI that I've owned a 257 for +15yrs and it continues to be my fave deer rifle even after a steady stream of other guns have come and gone.

The 243 has a few advantages that the 257 will not offer ...

- Fits better in a short action. I use a LA for my 257 to get a 3" OAL case length.
- Far better selection of rifles and action types in 243..
- Tons of ammo and loading kit and components to choose from.
- Better selection of bullets.
- Must be more that I can make up later. smile

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Seems to still be quite a bit of love for the 257 Roberts. Wish there was more factory offerings in both rifles and ammo. I stopped rolling my own 10 years ago. I might have to buy all new reloading equip this winter and get back into it.

OP, you won't have any problems putting pigs to sleep.


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DF, that’s a fine looking rifle. My old Ruger 77 tang safety is a real shooter and it has some sentimental value since it belonged to one of my goose hunting buddies who killed a dump truck load of deer with it loaded with 100 grain Interlocks over H380. I still have 400 of them that came with the rifle. Not likely to part with that rifle. Happy Trails


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
The best way to crumple pigs (aside from a brain shot) is to put a bullet that penetrates OK in the center of the neck, just in front of the shoulders. It will either take out the spine or the mass of blood vessels alongside the spine.


^^^^^This^^^^^


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Originally Posted by RevMike
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The best way to crumple pigs (aside from a brain shot) is to put a bullet that penetrates OK in the center of the neck, just in front of the shoulders. It will either take out the spine or the mass of blood vessels alongside the spine.


^^^^^This^^^^^


That center-neck is effective, yes. My father shoots for slightly below center-neck when bowhunting and gets really good blood trails. This is when he's deer hunting using expandables and doesn't trust a chest shot on a hog that happens by.


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I will say that I've messed up before with a rifle zeroed for 225yds and missed the spine high when shooting a pig at 150 yards or so. Forgot about the mid-range rise in the heat of the moment and hit meat a little too high in the neck. The pig didn't go down. That spine is dang near the center of the neck on a hog while it seems to be higher in the neck on a deer.







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Come up the front leg to the shoulder, 2/3rds up, there and forward to behind the ear will anchor them.

As you can see from the picture, that lines up with the spine, front shoulder to skull..

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Here's a link to some .257R loads and data.

Some B.S. too... But this IS the Fire....

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/10301462/5

100 TTSX or E-Tip at 3,250 fps over H-100V, the velocity champ, is a proven killer.

115's with H-4350 work well, too.

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Love my long-throated .257 Roberts with +P loads and brass.

3609fps with 75g V-MAX and H4895
3233fps with 100g TTSX and H4350
3163fps with 110g AB and H4350
2947fps with 120g A-Frame and H4831SC

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The 110g AB load is my standard load. The A-Frame is what I load when hunting elk/deer season.


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Originally Posted by RevMike
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
The best way to crumple pigs (aside from a brain shot) is to put a bullet that penetrates OK in the center of the neck, just in front of the shoulders. It will either take out the spine or the mass of blood vessels alongside the spine.


^^^^^This^^^^^


A 165 Ballistic Tip from a 308 applied as described sure does ruin a pig's day.

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Originally Posted by SuperCub
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In my opinion, the 257 Roberts is an excellent, VERY under rated cartridge! It is better than the 243 Win. as a combination varmint/deer cartridge.

How is the 257Roberts better than the 243?

Before you flame me ... FYI that I've owned a 257 for +15yrs and it continues to be my fave deer rifle even after a steady stream of other guns have come and gone.

The 243 has a few advantages that the 257 will not offer ...

- Fits better in a short action. I use a LA for my 257 to get a 3" OAL case length.
- Far better selection of rifles and action types in 243..
- Tons of ammo and loading kit and components to choose from.
- Better selection of bullets.
- Must be more that I can make up later. smile


I have owned and like both. My feeling is that for my use, primarily deer hunting, the 257 Roberts is better than the 243. If I were to use either as a combination varmint/deer cartridge and I did more varmint shooting than I did deer, I would feel just the opposite and say the 243 is slightly better. Yes, the 243 does fit better in a short action, absolutely. Yes, the 243 has more factory rifle choices. Yes, the 243 has more ammo choices. However, I don't mind a long action and as I said, I lean more toward deer hunting. Thus, I do feel the 257 Roberts gets the advantage here. It will also do in a pinch on larger game, though my experience personally is limited to deer. There is also just something to be said about owning a 257 Roberts.

If you were to build a custom rifle from scratch, with all of your preferred options, I'd always lean toward the 257 Roberts....Everyone owns a 243, but not everyone owns a good 257 Roberts.


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Originally Posted by Dixie_Rebel
If you were to build a custom rifle from scratch, with all of your preferred options, I'd always lean toward the 257 Roberts....Everyone owns a 243, but not everyone owns a good 257 Roberts.

I wanted something different than a 243 as well.

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Roberts vs. .243..?.

Have had both, still have the Roberts.

SA vs LA not an issue for me. My Roberts is LA.

If I wanted a SA .24 cal, I'd probably get a 6 CM for the round and the twist.

My current .24 cal is a .240.

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as gun dealer yes i sell more 243 Win., 6.5 Creedmoors, 7mm 0-8 and the list goes on ,but i still like the old reliable 257 Roberts its just a grand old cartridge and i do wish gun manufactures did offer 257 Roberts much more in rifles. over the years i have been able to buy rifles in 257 Roberts and i do keep them to leave to my kids and grandkids. i have even been loading 257 ammo for their future hunting days i have now loaded 12 boxes of 20 ,purchased another 10 boxes too. i want them to enjoy a great old cartridge from past ,the rifles i have purchased all have wood stocks except one, i need a couple more 257 Roberts with wood stocks too ,i am always lookin.


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Love the old classic 257 Roberts. Have a sweet, trim Dakota Model 10 chambered in the Bob.

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Originally Posted by stevevan1
Love the old classic 257 Roberts. Have a sweet, trim Dakota Model 10 chambered in the Bob.

Would love to see pictures of that one.

Those are really nice rifles, slick and trim.

Pure class.

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Originally Posted by pete53
as gun dealer yes i sell more 243 Win., 6.5 Creedmoors, 7mm 0-8 and the list goes on ,but i still like the old reliable 257 Roberts its just a grand old cartridge and i do wish gun manufactures did offer 257 Roberts much more in rifles. over the years i have been able to buy rifles in 257 Roberts and i do keep them to leave to my kids and grandkids. i have even been loading 257 ammo for their future hunting days i have now loaded 12 boxes of 20 ,purchased another 10 boxes too. i want them to enjoy a great old cartridge from past ,the rifles i have purchased all have wood stocks except one, i need a couple more 257 Roberts with wood stocks too ,i am always lookin.

Twist kills older Roberts...


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as gun dealer yes i sell more 243 Win., 6.5 Creedmoors, 7mm 0-8 and the list goes on ,but i still like the old reliable 257 Roberts its just a grand old cartridge and i do wish gun manufactures did offer 257 Roberts much more in rifles. over the years i have been able to buy rifles in 257 Roberts and i do keep them to leave to my kids and grandkids. i have even been loading 257 ammo for their future hunting days i have now loaded 12 boxes of 20 ,purchased another 10 boxes too. i want them to enjoy a great old cartridge from past ,the rifles i have purchased all have wood stocks except one, i need a couple more 257 Roberts with wood stocks too ,i am always lookin.

Twist kills older Roberts...

Twist is a limiting factor in a number of classic rounds, especially with the trend to heavier for caliber, higher B.C. bullets. I shoot 100's mostly in my Roberts and it stabilizes them, as well as 115's and 120's with std. twist.

I built an 8 twist .22-250, works great with heavies. But, EOM .22-250's are slow twist per SAAMI specs and are sorta locked in a time warp, as are a number of older rounds.

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Here is my Roberts in it's latest and likely final stock, a McM Hunter's Edge, Flat Dark Earth with Olive specs. Conquest 3-9x40.

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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
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as gun dealer yes i sell more 243 Win., 6.5 Creedmoors, 7mm 0-8 and the list goes on ,but i still like the old reliable 257 Roberts its just a grand old cartridge and i do wish gun manufactures did offer 257 Roberts much more in rifles. over the years i have been able to buy rifles in 257 Roberts and i do keep them to leave to my kids and grandkids. i have even been loading 257 ammo for their future hunting days i have now loaded 12 boxes of 20 ,purchased another 10 boxes too. i want them to enjoy a great old cartridge from past ,the rifles i have purchased all have wood stocks except one, i need a couple more 257 Roberts with wood stocks too ,i am always lookin.

Twist kills older Roberts...


> just built a new 257 Roberts with a 7 1/2 twist,#4 Brux barrel on a old very nice Remington 30 express rifle shoots real good 1/2 inch - 5 shot group 100 yards

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Here is my Roberts in it's latest and likely final stock, a McM Hunter's Edge, Flat Dark Earth with Olive specs. Conquest 3-9x40.

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Dang I like that rifle!

Thanks, me too... wink

It went thru a series of scopes and this isn't the original stock.

I like this combo and don't foresee any changes.

The 24" Brux had some scuffs, so I polished it I have camo tape to cover it if needed.

This is my only 700 with a Walker trigger, the rest have Timney's. Ron Lampert did such a great job tweaking this old trigger, IMO, a replacement wouldn't be an upgrade. So the Lampert tweaked Walker trigger stays.

This rifle has very effectively killed WT's and hogs. I'm sure it will again.

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Have not shot a big porker with a .257 Roberts, but have shot some Whitetail "hogs" with one. Fiddled around with several bullet weights and brands and made life simple by settling on 115 grain Nosler Partitions They are very accurate in my twin Ruger 77s and do not disappoint in taking Whitetails.

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Originally Posted by roundoak
Have not shot a big porker with a .257 Roberts, but have shot some Whitetail "hogs" with one. Fiddled around with several bullet weights and brands and made life simple by settling on 115 grain Nosler Partitions They are very accurate in my twin Ruger 77s and do not disappoint in taking Whitetails.

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My granddaughter killed a 9'4" brownie using 117 gr Sierras in her "Bob" a couple years ago. She and my daughter happened upon him while deer hunting an she had her tag in her pocket. 1 shot low behind the shoulder another at base of skull. DRT.

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My granddaughter killed a 9'4" brownie using 117 gr Sierras in her "Bob" a couple years ago. She and my daughter happened upon him while deer hunting an she had her tag in her pocket. 1 shot low behind the shoulder another at base of skull. DRT.


now that is super neat to hear ! long live the 257 Roberts !


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I have a .257 Bob as well in a Remington 700 Mountain Rifle. It has worked well for me. I've had several 25-06's over the years, but they are all gone.

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Originally Posted by overmax
I have a .257 Bob as well in a Remington 700 Mountain Rifle.

I looked far and wide for one of those years ago. I finally gave up the search and had one built. Down the road, the factory MR stock was swapped out for a TI take-off which was an overall improvement.

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Originally Posted by southtexas
Anyone else notice that the old Roberts, hand-loaded with 115-120 grain bullets (which is all that’s needed for deer/pigs a “normal” hunting ranges) is a ballistic twin to the vaunted 6.5CM.



That’s a great way to compare the old Bob

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The whole rifling-twist argument against the Roberts (and the .25-06,and .257 Weatherby) is interesting to me, partly because I've used both cartridges out to around 500 yards with 100-120 grain bullets to know they kill fine. In fact, before we knew 100-grain .25-caliber bullets were a lousy choice for 500-yard shooting, even when started at 3250-3550 fps, they somehow still worked every time I tried them in the field. Though perhaps that was partly because I never tried such shots in "real" wind--which in my experience tends to be erratic

Have also used the 6.5 Creedmoor (and other 6.5s) plenty with heavier, higher-BC bullets and it works great too...


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
The whole rifling-twist argument against the Roberts (and the .25-06,and .257 Weatherby) is interesting to me, partly because I've used both cartridges out to around 500 yards with 100-120 grain bullets to know they kill fine. In fact, before we knew 100-grain .25-caliber bullets were a lousy choice for 500-yard shooting, even when started at 3250-3550 fps, they somehow still worked every time I tried them in the field. Though perhaps that was partly because I never tried such shots in "real" wind--which in my experience tends to be erratic

Have also used the 6.5 Creedmoor (and other 6.5s) plenty with heavier, higher-BC bullets and it works great too...



yes i would agree when i built my 1st 257 Weatherbys 20 years ago Jerry Simmonson said how about a 1-10 twist i said sounds good and 100 grain Nosler Partitions i got for free and shot out of my Ohler chonograph at 3800 fps rifle shot great out 500 yards even killed a big buck antelope at a measured 600 yards on 1st shot with a bi-pod laying down. i still use that same type rifles with 1-10 twist 100 grain bullet works great on deer in Minnesota and out west,because of the speed of this type rifle i don`t need to mess around with a range finder very often. i just use the old saying hold high on meat on the 1st shot.

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Is it just me, or are hogs easy as hell to kill? Biggest one I ever killed was with a 223. Course I shot the poor bastard in the ear...

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Anything’s easy to kill if you can hit the brain.

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
Is it just me, or are hogs easy as hell to kill? Biggest one I ever killed was with a 223. Course I shot the poor bastard in the ear...


Interesting question and I suppose the answer is, "It depends." Like he said, easy if you hit the brain. I generally try to sever the spine in the neck. That gives me a little leeway if the pig is moving or I'm wobbling. In my terrain, if they're not on the ground when hit, then within about twenty yards or so they're lost in palmettos or myrtle and scrub oak thickets. I shot one day before yesterday that wasn't really big (just under 160 lbs), but pretty old. His head and neck were obscured, so I took a shot through the shoulders, breaking both and undoubtedly wrecking his heart (no autopsy, but the path of the bullet pretty much assured it). When I hit him, he never hit the ground but ran about four yards before folding. The bullet went through a really thick shield before making it to the shoulders and heart, and kept on going out the other side.

But here's an opposite story, and if I didn't have my BIL with me to see it for himself I wouldn't believe it either. One day a few years back there was a small sounder of shoats moving along the brush line of a drainage. They all looked to be somewhere in the neighborhood of forty to forty-five pounds. They were trotting along at a slight angle to me, about thirty yards away, so I lined up on one and squeezed off a shot. I hit it a little too far back, and the 139-gr Interlock exited the off side, bulging a bunch innards from the exit wound. All the pigs disappeared into some scrub oak, and we picked our way along a very poor blood trail - another reason gut-shots suck. Now, this is the part that's hard to believe. About thirty yards from where the pig was hit was a pile of intestines, but no pig. We looked all over the place, trying to find blood (there was none to be found), looking in thickets as that's where wounded pigs generally go, listening for flies (they can find blood in minutes) - nothing: no pig nor any sign of a pig. It's as if something just grabbed it and carried it away. I'm sure he wasn't far away, but we couldn't find him. I was just amazed that he kept on going after having emptied his insides. Adrenaline, in man or beast, is an amazing thing.

So are pigs particularly tough? Like anything else, not if they're hit right. But unlike some animals, they're pretty resilient when not immediately put on the ground.

Just my $.02

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I find that 100-200lb pigs die just like deer, when hit with a rifle. They often act like deer also, going on a blind death-run until they conk out. The bigger pigs often act differently, sometimes showing less sign of taking a hard hit. They will trot off, picking their way along their known trails, and eventually run out of steam. If you don't get a blood trail with a big pig, look up and down their beat-out game trails and you'll often find them.


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My custom Bob with the 110 gr. AB handloads has been knocking down Pronghorn since, well, forever.


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Originally Posted by Puddle
My custom Bob with the 110 gr. AB handloads has been knocking down Pronghorn since, well, forever.


That is one of my two most-used loads, 3163fps. The other is a 100g TTSX @ 3233fps. The AB has better downrange ballistics.


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