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A vote for any 3d party or independent is a vote for Biden. We have a 2 party system and that's just the way it is. It's too bad when you have to choose between 2 that you don't like but voting for neither is a vote for the one you like the least.


The left says the exact opposite: A vote for 3rd party is a vote for Trump. That should tell us something.
If you vote 3d party, you're taking a vote from the major party candidate that you come closest to agreeing with. Who would you vote for if there was no 3d party candidate? Most likely Trump. If you vote Libertarian, you're voting for someone much closer to Trump than to Biden so you're hurting Trump while helping Biden.


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That was deeper than I was getting at, but true. I just meant they must be more than a bit worried about Biden's chances.

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
A vote for any 3d party or independent is a vote for Biden. We have a 2 party system and that's just the way it is. It's too bad when you have to choose between 2 that you don't like but voting for neither is a vote for the one you like the least.
...............Yup! Look what happened in '92. Perot got 19% of the popular vote taking away votes from Bush 41. Then we wound up with "slick" Willy for 8 years.

If ya vote for any 3rd party or write in anyone, then Biden is helped...........

God help us all if Joe D E M E N T I A Biden wins the presidency to then maybe soon be succeeded by his VP pic.


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It's depressing but 90% of my life has been voting against the other guy, not voting for someone. Meanwhile, everything we care about like privacy, freedom of choice, personal property, region, free speech, and firearms rights have been bleeding out of our veins. I don't know what the best answer is but I do know that either voting for a Democrat or not voting is basically fast tracking our demise.


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My RINO state representative refused to back constitutional carry legislation in the last session, as did my RINO state senator: I'm done with the GOP, they stab me in my back at every turn. I might vote for Pres. Trump this Fall, he's let me down by not bringing home our troops from Europe/Africa/Asia. Our Founding Fathers DID NOT intend for us to have military outposts waging unconstitutional wars around the world, forever (See: Syria/Bosnia/et al).

https://identitydixie.com/2020/06/19/the-gop-is-not-for-me/

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It is time to face a tough fact: the South has no political home in the United States of America. The Democratic Party long since abandoned the South. Its strategy is clearly aligned with (largely urban) minority constituents, sexual degenerates from across the LGBT+ spectrum, and Marxist indoctrinated cat moms. However, the Republican Party was supposed to be the conservative option. It was the retooling of a Dixiecrat bloc that shared some traditionalist ideological camaraderie with Yankee elites. That was a happy fantasy that has long since died.

Today, as monuments are torn down, our heritage is vilified, and politicians race to out-virtue signal each other on the backs of our deceased kin, the Republican Party – from Trump down – has proven that the South is on her own. It is time to walk away from that party. It is time to show those within the party that our loyalty to them comes with a price: loyalty to us.

Since the Republican Party has broken its agreement with the South, no self-respecting Southerner should vote Republican.

I am not suggesting you vote Democrat. They are in full-blown Bolshevik mode. I am suggesting you do not vote for any of them – period. Walk away.

For a long time, I have believed that the best path forward is a free and independent South. The South is the last Godly Nation-State in the West. Her people are overwhelmingly Christian. Her people have a rich heritage that is distinct from the rest of the United States. Much of that heritage – for good and bad – is often tied to a war for her own independence in the mid-19th Century and the post-war oppression of Reconstruction. These unique attributes and cultural idiosyncrasies define a unique ethnicity.

Southerners are not generically “American,” Southerners are Southerners.

The Irish Nationalist in me recognizes these beautiful people for what they are – a people worthy of her own destiny. She deserves better from a country to which she has given a disproportionate amount of her native sons to the beaches of the Pacific, the jungles of Vietnam, and the mountains of Afghanistan. Now, as monuments to her departed kin are defiled and destroyed, she deserves protection from the one voice to whom she empowered to be her protector through the vote: the Republican Party.

And how has the GOP honored the South’s unwavering commitment to the party? Silence – at best.

The recent riots throughout the United States, perpetrated by Bolshevik extremists and antifa terrorists, are an indication that the country is lost forever. It is hard to imagine that anyone can re-piece this jigsaw puzzle together. The best we could previously hope for was that our political leaders – the Republican Party – would stand their ground in the wake of the insane and obvious attempt to weaponize race to achieve systemic changes that are basically Marxist in orientation. That clearly is not happening.

Instead, we got Texas Republican Governor Greg Abbott groveling to the family of a man who was robbing a pregnant woman weeks before he was killed. A Republican Senate that has its majority because of the South, just voted to rename historic bases that honored Southern heroes on Southern properties. We have a Georgia House Speaker, Republican David Ralston, is now spearheading “hate crime” legislation that would effectively make it illegal to voice an unpopular opinion. The list of anti-Southern actions by Republicans grows daily.

At almost every turn, Republicans are betraying the very Southern voters who put them in power – all to placate a mob of violent radicals in the hopes that they may be able to hold onto approximately 10% of the Black vote in future elections.

It is time to walk away.

I still believe Southern independence can be achieved through a peaceful separation of states – but not with the GOP as the vehicle to implement that change. Conservative, Godly legislation throughout the South on matters such as religious liberty, abortion, and pre-pubescent transgenderism would stand in such stark contrast to that of ungodly, leftist degeneracy in the North and West. Such a stark contrast would eventually force an amicable divorce. Even Bill Maher seemed to agree.

Of course, such a strategy requires a political will to do Godly acts with more fortitude than those we have today. It is very clear by the actions of the GOP that the Republican party lacks such fortitude. If it can stand idly by while young boys in Republican Texas are encouraged to chemically castrate themselves, it should be no shock that it would surrender monuments to our brave ancestors.

Florida Republican Rick Scott did something no previous Democrat in Florida had ever done. He removed a statue commemorating Florida General Kirby Smith from state grounds. Why? Because he wanted to win a seat in the federal Senate. That is the same Republican Senate that just voted to strip the South of its military heritage from bases occupying Southern lands.

It is clear that the Republican Party has no interest in standing for the very constituency that puts it into power. It is time to walk away from them. I know what this means. A “no-vote” is a Democratic vote. So what? Our entire society is under constant barrage, anyway. Perhaps, if the Republicans are forced to suffer a massive election defeat it might wake-up a new class of elected official. Those elected officials may realize that the only way to stay in power is to support the very people who gift them such power with their vote.

Do I believe the Left will take advantage of such an opportunity if we gift them a super majority? Yes, I do. Might some believe I am a political accelerationist? Probably, but images throughout the country indicate accelerationism is already here, and the GOP has done absolutely nothing to stop the country from being destroyed by antifa terrorism or state sanctioned anarcho-tyranny. In such an environment, I would rather we face the devil in front of us than the one stabbing us in the back. And the Republican Party stabs us in the back at every turn.

It is time to walk away from the Republican Party and show them that we can no longer tolerate their betrayal. Walk away. We will eventually be better for it.


Riiight...Just walk away and give it all to the Democrats. Let them have the House, Senate, and the White House. GOOD GRIEF!!!


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U.S.—Conservatives have been betrayed by Republican-nominated judges yet again. But they have a plan to fight back: they’re going to vote Republican even harder next time.

“I’ll show the Republican Party a thing or two,” growled long-time Republican Bud Harper of Plano, Texas as he cleaned his AR-15. “If they can’t get their act together, I’ll go right to the ballot box and vote Republican again. Hard.”

“If this doesn’t show them we mean business, nothing will.” He then shot his AR-15 into the air as a warning shot to the Republicans about his plan to keep voting Republican no matter what.

Some suggested Republicans vote third-party or abstain from voting to show they won’t tolerate the failures of the Republican Party. These people were laughed out of public discourse for throwing their votes away. “Obviously, these people want Democrats to win and probably want babies to die,” said an RNC spokesperson. “Just keep on voting for the party that betrays you at every opportunity, and things will turn around any day now.”

“So much winning.”

https://www.theburningplatform.com/...lican-even-harder-next-time/#more-219858


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Voting is not going to get us out of this mess. We have seen huge majorities voted for some issue, but if the ruling class is opposed, it is not going to happen. Leaders of BOTH political parties hate us and want us dead and our children raped by degenerates.

Now that the small-hat brigade and their auxiliaries have pushed us down to 60% of the population, you think voting for a lucky BS-er is going to solve the problem? Put down the joint and get your head clear.

This is now a country where the ruling class burns/bans books, sends political prisoners to prison for centuries-long sentences, and the rule of law has been replaced by rule of man.

But keep on following that rule book...into the grave.


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Originally Posted by efw
It isn’t just Southerners who have been alienated by the Uni-Party. Anyone with any sort of Conservative scruples at all feels it. Heck; even Classic Liberals are feeling it!

I’ve often wondered whether the idea that one MUST vote or refrain from complaint (which is how I was raised) is actually upside down. Maybe the truth is that my participation in the system is a capitulation which gives that system authority over me and in fact it is those who vote who can’t complain?

Haven’t gotten there yet but it is an idea I’m not nearly as closed to as I once was.

Would love for a third party to come along that offers a genuine alternative to the Uniparty scam we have running now.

I’ll be voting Trump.



I understand your sentiment 110%. The thing is, though, is there are realities staring us straight in the face: we have a TWO-PARTY system and political dynamics won't allow a change, too many of us are predisposed to taking our ball and going home if a candidate doesn't exceed Jesus Christ himself in [political] purity and righteousness, and no two human beings will verbalize desires exactly the same even if their aims, desires, goals, ideals, etc are absolutely identical.

The honest truth is we must all hold our noses when we vote. NOBODY gets exactly what they want unless their name happens to be Satan---who I imagine is experiencing a euphoria previously unimagined.


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Originally Posted by gonehuntin
U.S.—Conservatives have been betrayed by Republican-nominated judges yet again. But they have a plan to fight back: they’re going to vote Republican even harder next time.


Heh.


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Originally Posted by jfruser
Voting is not going to get us out of this mess. We have seen huge majorities voted for some issue, but if the ruling class is opposed, it is not going to happen. Leaders of BOTH political parties hate us and want us dead and our children raped by degenerates.

Now that the small-hat brigade and their auxiliaries have pushed us down to 60% of the population, you think voting for a lucky BS-er is going to solve the problem? Put down the joint and get your head clear.

This is now a country where the ruling class burns/bans books, sends political prisoners to prison for centuries-long sentences, and the rule of law has been replaced by rule of man.

But keep on following that rule book...into the grave.


Back your claim. Who is burning/banning what books? What political prisoners? Sent to prison for how long?

If not voting...what?


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Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by jfruser
Voting is not going to get us out of this mess. We have seen huge majorities voted for some issue, but if the ruling class is opposed, it is not going to happen. Leaders of BOTH political parties hate us and want us dead and our children raped by degenerates.

Now that the small-hat brigade and their auxiliaries have pushed us down to 60% of the population, you think voting for a lucky BS-er is going to solve the problem? Put down the joint and get your head clear.

This is now a country where the ruling class burns/bans books, sends political prisoners to prison for centuries-long sentences, and the rule of law has been replaced by rule of man.

But keep on following that rule book...into the grave.


Back your claim. Who is burning/banning what books? What political prisoners? Sent to prison for how long?

If not voting...what?


Where have you been?

BOOK BANS
Amazon and major book stores now regularly ban books. Amazon itself sells 83% of the e-books sold, 50% of physical books. If you don;t think a corporation can't ban or do unconstitutional things, they sure can when they are a monopolist/near-monopolist and when they are acting in accord with ruling class policy.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/04/08/amazon-is-on-a-digital-book-burning-spree/
Originally Posted by Amazon Is on a Digital Book Burning Spree
Under pressure from left-wing journalists and activists, Amazon is purging right-wing authors from its store, including a book co-authored by English Islam critic and independent commentator Tommy Robinson.

The web retail giant has become the dominant market player in book sales, accounting for nearly 50 percent of physical and 83 percent of e-book sales in the U.S. As such, Amazon has the power to effectively cut an author off from the vast majority of the books market...

In 2010, Amazon refused to take down a book defending pedophilia on first amendment grounds. “Amazon believes it is censorship not sell certain books simply because we or others believe their message is objectionable,” an Amazon representative told CNBC at the time...

Public and media outcry was not enough to pressure Amazon into watering down its commitment to content-neutrality when it came to a pro-pedophile book. But it now takes only the slightest pressure for the tech giant to ban right-wing critiques of religion.


OTOH, still for sale at amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Communist-Manifesto-Chiron-Academic-Press/dp/9176374882/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3NB2NX613KISG&dchild=1&keywords=communist+manifesto+hardcover&qid=1592610448&sprefix=communist+manifest%2Caps%2C186&sr=8-1
(communist manifesto)

https://www.amazon.com/Justine-Phil...is+de+sade&qid=1592610535&sr=8-3
(includes the marqis de sade abusing his slaves by gouging out eyes, burning with hot pokers and eventually killing one by sodomizing her with a hot poker)


POLITICAL PRISONERS
https://www.unz.com/estriker/americas-political-prisoners/
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Figures like Michael Flynn, Roger Stone, Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen were all entrapped in a conspiracy by federal agents seeking to overthrow the duly elected president of the United States. The saga has led to calls in conservative publications to break up the FBI and investigate the extent of their abuses against Americans whose political views they do not approve of.

Fortunately for Flynn, Cohen, and likely Stone, they are now being provided redress. The Department of Justice’s decision to drop the Flynn case is welcome. Michael Cohen and Manafort have been released from prison and will be spending the rest of their sentences under house arrest. Roger Stone, while still battling in court, will likely figure a way out.

But not all people being railroaded and tortured in solitary confinement by the FBI can count the president of the United States as a personal friend.

Below is a list of American political prisoners subjected to similar treatment, with background information and their most up to date addresses for writing them.


Keep on reading. Guys who are not rich and best buds with Trump get to sit in prison for the crime of supporting Trump or defending themselves against antifa.


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Yeah, but amazon has free shipping grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin


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You will make the Marxists very happy if you don't vote for Republicans this Fall. That is exactly their plan.....Let's see how you like Leftist rule for the next 30 years, I'll bet you will be more angry than you are at the Republicans!

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Yup, shirk the one responsibility you have to the Men and Women that have given their life for this country, good choice.


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The repubs aren't anyone's friend. They are just slightly less worse than the far left. I remind my reps of that all the time.

I hate every politician and wish we didn't have a two party system. It's recently created a division that media can drive for clicks.

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Maybe if enough people don't vote the dumocrats will gain full control of the country, which I feel like they already have. Once that happens maybe the big mouth white couch potatoes will get energized and stand up to the government and fight for the rights guaranteed in the Constitution. I'm ready to get it over with one way or the the other, living like this is BS and is just passing the buck to the kids and grandkids.


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Originally Posted by jfruser
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Originally Posted by jfruser
Voting is not going to get us out of this mess. We have seen huge majorities voted for some issue, but if the ruling class is opposed, it is not going to happen. Leaders of BOTH political parties hate us and want us dead and our children raped by degenerates.

Now that the small-hat brigade and their auxiliaries have pushed us down to 60% of the population, you think voting for a lucky BS-er is going to solve the problem? Put down the joint and get your head clear.

This is now a country where the ruling class burns/bans books, sends political prisoners to prison for centuries-long sentences, and the rule of law has been replaced by rule of man.

But keep on following that rule book...into the grave.


Back your claim. Who is burning/banning what books? What political prisoners? Sent to prison for how long?

If not voting...what?


Where have you been?

BOOK BANS
Amazon and major book stores now regularly ban books. Amazon itself sells 83% of the e-books sold, 50% of physical books. If you don;t think a corporation can't ban or do unconstitutional things, they sure can when they are a monopolist/near-monopolist and when they are acting in accord with ruling class policy.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/04/08/amazon-is-on-a-digital-book-burning-spree/
Originally Posted by Amazon Is on a Digital Book Burning Spree
Under pressure from left-wing journalists and activists, Amazon is purging right-wing authors from its store, including a book co-authored by English Islam critic and independent commentator Tommy Robinson.

The web retail giant has become the dominant market player in book sales, accounting for nearly 50 percent of physical and 83 percent of e-book sales in the U.S. As such, Amazon has the power to effectively cut an author off from the vast majority of the books market...

In 2010, Amazon refused to take down a book defending pedophilia on first amendment grounds. “Amazon believes it is censorship not sell certain books simply because we or others believe their message is objectionable,” an Amazon representative told CNBC at the time...

Public and media outcry was not enough to pressure Amazon into watering down its commitment to content-neutrality when it came to a pro-pedophile book. But it now takes only the slightest pressure for the tech giant to ban right-wing critiques of religion.


OTOH, still for sale at amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Communist-Manifesto-Chiron-Academic-Press/dp/9176374882/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3NB2NX613KISG&dchild=1&keywords=communist+manifesto+hardcover&qid=1592610448&sprefix=communist+manifest%2Caps%2C186&sr=8-1
(communist manifesto)

https://www.amazon.com/Justine-Phil...is+de+sade&qid=1592610535&sr=8-3
(includes the marqis de sade abusing his slaves by gouging out eyes, burning with hot pokers and eventually killing one by sodomizing her with a hot poker)


POLITICAL PRISONERS
https://www.unz.com/estriker/americas-political-prisoners/
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Figures like Michael Flynn, Roger Stone, Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen were all entrapped in a conspiracy by federal agents seeking to overthrow the duly elected president of the United States. The saga has led to calls in conservative publications to break up the FBI and investigate the extent of their abuses against Americans whose political views they do not approve of.

Fortunately for Flynn, Cohen, and likely Stone, they are now being provided redress. The Department of Justice’s decision to drop the Flynn case is welcome. Michael Cohen and Manafort have been released from prison and will be spending the rest of their sentences under house arrest. Roger Stone, while still battling in court, will likely figure a way out.

But not all people being railroaded and tortured in solitary confinement by the FBI can count the president of the United States as a personal friend.

Below is a list of American political prisoners subjected to similar treatment, with background information and their most up to date addresses for writing them.


Keep on reading. Guys who are not rich and best buds with Trump get to sit in prison for the crime of supporting Trump or defending themselves against antifa.


Where have I been? Reading any book i want to read.

The figures you named are hardly "political prisoners" Their path for due process was a bit convoluted but they got their day in court.

You have no clue what a real "political prisoner" or "tortured" really means.


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We *ALL* have essentially 4 choices, this Nov:

1) Vote Conservative
2) Vote Liberal
3) Vote 3rd party/write in
4) Don't vote

None of the choices are great.

But as Mike Rosen (850KOA blowtorch of the west, and best conservative talk show host to ever grace the airwaves) always said, "Party trumps person".

Puke in your mouth, hate the system, hate Trump..... But in the end, there really is only one obvious, sane path to buy us another 4 years to rally the troops.


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