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Yes. Spotting your own shots is a good thing.

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All three of my Tikkas in .223 wear Leupold FX-3 12x40 AO Target scopes.



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Leupold M8 6x on my 223 Montana.
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It's all I have ever had on my .223. I have not seen an issue with it, other than prairie dogs out past 300 or so yards. Bigger varmints like coyotes and such isn't an issue to 500 or so. Maybe more.



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Originally Posted by Poconojack

Leupold M8 6x on my 223 Montana.
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I have an Excellent Zeiss 6x Diavari as an extra. It would be perfect for a short action .223. If interested send a PM as I'm willing to part with it to a new owner who can use it.

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Originally Posted by stevevan1
I have an Excellent Zeiss 6x Diavari as an extra. It would be perfect for a short action .223. If interested send a PM as I'm willing to part with it to a new owner who can use it.


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Farm gun that lives on the ATV and tractor is a .223 Montana with a 6x SWFA. Kid's .223AI wears a 6x Meopta. RRA AR wears a 6x SWFA.

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Originally Posted by Fotis
Is this enough power for the 223 as a varmint gun?
What say you?



Fotis, for calling predators, yes. For buck toothed colony varmints, no.


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Is this enough power for the 223 as a varmint gun?
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Fotis, for calling predators, yes. For buck toothed colony varmints, no.

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Originally Posted by Borchardt
Heavens no. You need at least 40x with an objective bell no smaller than 60mm, gathers a lot more light, you know, so you can shoot PDs in the dark, oh, and elevation turrets the size of baby food jars.

Note: The rings need 4 screws per side (total of 16) for that heavy recoil, and if the barrel twist is slower than 1 turn every 4 inches, chuck it in the dumpster with the other scrap metal.


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Originally Posted by Fotis
Is this enough power for the 223 as a varmint gun?
What say you?

I have one 223. It is a bolt gun, a Savage model 10 with a Leupold M8 6x42. I don't use it for varmints, but rather general rifle practice, and the scope is fine for that.


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friend was varmint hunting 20 years ago and was using a low powered scope on a 22-250. he kept seeing a ground hog setting up at 350-400yards and everytime he would get ready to shoot the hog would go back down and out of sight. after 15-20 min a guy stood up right where he had been watching what he thought was a groundhog,he had been seeing the back of the guys head raise up and down as he trout fished the stream behind the field, pretty much broke him using low powered scopes. get a higher powered scope and see what you are shooting at instead of what you think you see. yes I called him stupid a thousand times after that.

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I'd of called him stupid for using his rifle scope, of any power to spot critters.



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A few years back I took a Kimber Montana with a 6x SWFA MQ to Colorado to shoot Richardson ground squirrels. I had a ton of ammo loaded for it so it got the nod when my buddy gave me short notice.

Now, I'm not saying the 6x would be my first choice, but my hit count was very impressive out to 400 yards + and the Milquad reticle a veritable rock star!

Granted, the Richardsons are pachyderms compared to the tiny sage rats Ingwe is talking about.


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Originally Posted by T_Inman
I'd of called him stupid for using his rifle scope, of any power to spot critters.



That one aint about using your scope to spot critters as much as it is knowing your back stop and what's behind it.

Whew, hate hearing stories like that even when nobody got hurt.


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I’m running a SWFA 6x MQ on an RAR .223 1/8.
It’s my range gun and general plinker. The first centerfire I use to introduce newbies to the sport.
It’s fine for ground squirrels to 200 yards or even rock chucks to 300.
But generally for colony varmint shooting I will use the .204 and 4.5x14 Leupold.
I think 6X is a pretty good match for calling coyotes or on any big game rifle.


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Originally Posted by Higginez
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I'd of called him stupid for using his rifle scope, of any power to spot critters.



That one aint about using your scope to spot critters as much as it is knowing your back stop and what's behind it.



That too, no doubt.
They're both dumb things to do but srwshooter never said there was or wasn't a safe background, just that his friend was trying to shoot a "groundhog" he'd "identified" through his low powered riflescope. There easily could have been a high bank to that creek that would have made the shot itself safe....assuming the target really was a groundhog.

It spooks me too to even read about such situations, even if the shot never happened.




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Originally Posted by T_Inman
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I'd of called him stupid for using his rifle scope, of any power to spot critters.



That one aint about using your scope to spot critters as much as it is knowing your back stop and what's behind it.



That too, no doubt.
They're both dumb things to do but srwshooter never said there was or wasn't a safe background, just that his friend was trying to shoot a "groundhog" he'd "identified" through his low powered riflescope. There easily could have been a high bank to that creek that would have made the shot itself safe....assuming the target really was a groundhog.

It spooks me too to even read about such situations, even if the shot never happened.


That could be a major problem. I remember one time when a buddy and I went coyote calling and my buddy thought he saw a yote coming towards us. He was looking through his low powered rifle scope and after he fired, the doe jumped up and spun around and high tailed it out of there...
Originally Posted by srwshooter
friend was varmint hunting 20 years ago and was using a low powered scope on a 22-250. he kept seeing a ground hog setting up at 350-400yards and everytime he would get ready to shoot the hog would go back down and out of sight. after 15-20 min a guy stood up right where he had been watching what he thought was a groundhog,he had been seeing the back of the guys head raise up and down as he trout fished the stream behind the field, pretty much broke him using low powered scopes. get a higher powered scope and see what you are shooting at instead of what you think you see. yes I called him stupid a thousand times after that.

A lot of guys here are using low powered scopes on their 223's. Seems like a good idea, right?


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It's not very fun to have someone inadvertently shooting in your direction. That story makes me nauseated. Fuucking morons everywhere I go anymore. Apparently that isn't a new trend.


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