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Originally Posted by stxhunter
the whole movie is a cheese game.

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Originally Posted by hanco
The book is better!
It almost always is.......


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Originally Posted by IndyCA35
It's kind of implausible. A Soviet spy satellite would have found the sub hidden in Maine very soon after that. The Russians would have called that an act of war.



We had a very good picture of what they could see and in what time frames.


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Originally Posted by hatari
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Cook was a KGB agent. Answers first and last question.

Radiation issues were falsified by Ramius as excuse to get his men off the boat.


The book IS really much better, lest someone else take offense at humor...


I did read the book once upon a time, and enjoyed it. It does jump around from one scene to the next and doesn't all come togther until the climax. You go from Ryan to Dallas, to Red October to Sec of State each chapter as I recall.


I think Clancy was the one to popularize that kind of parallel storyline style of writing. I'd find myself caring a lot more about on story than another thread and then when they started merging having to go back and figure out what I missed!

None of Clancy's books ever really made a decent movie but the closest was Patriot Games.


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
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Cook was a KGB agent. Answers first and last question.

Radiation issues were falsified by Ramius as excuse to get his men off the boat.


The book IS really much better, lest someone else take offense at humor...



Complete agreement. More texture, depth, side stories.




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The Lord of the Rings movies were as good as the books.



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Debt of Honor was prophetic. It predated 9/11 and had a Japanese airliner crashing into the capital building killing most of our government. I expect that this book inspired the Muslims who murdered 3,000 people on 9/11.

My favorite Clancy book is Red Storm Rising. It portrays WW3 with the Russians attacking Europe.



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Originally Posted by ConradCA
The Lord of the Rings movies were as good as the books.



Not by a long shot.




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Originally Posted by ConradCA
My favorite Clancy book is Red Storm Rising. It portrays WW3 with the Russians attacking Europe.

I agree 100%. His best book by far imo.


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Speaking of movies, what the heck ever happened to that film where rednecks were kidnapped to be shot at by rich pinko liberals? The Hunt or something? That should be hitting theaters right about now, because I think what happens is the rednecks zap all the liberals.


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the whole movie is a cheese game.

lmao cheddar


I see what you did there.


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the whole movie is a cheese game.

lmao cheddar


I see what you did there.


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If you have some spare time, read Clancey's "The sum of all fears". Damn long, but, damn good.

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I have not read the book. Does it explain how the cook managed to be on board after "The Count" was correct when the crew was put off the sub?


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Originally Posted by ConradCA
Debt of Honor was prophetic. It predated 9/11 and had a Japanese airliner crashing into the capital building killing most of our government. I expect that this book inspired the Muslims who murdered 3,000 people on 9/11.

My favorite Clancy book is Red Storm Rising. It portrays WW3 with the Russians attacking Europe.


Much of the detail in his books was.
He must of had some good sources.
A good measure of the quality is that you couldn't burn through his single authored stuff the way you can with the stuff written by his apprenti...
The detail was at a much higher level.

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Originally Posted by Pugs
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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Cook was a KGB agent. Answers first and last question.

Radiation issues were falsified by Ramius as excuse to get his men off the boat.


The book IS really much better, lest someone else take offense at humor...


I did read the book once upon a time, and enjoyed it. It does jump around from one scene to the next and doesn't all come togther until the climax. You go from Ryan to Dallas, to Red October to Sec of State each chapter as I recall.


I think Clancy was the one to popularize that kind of parallel storyline style of writing. I'd find myself caring a lot more about on story than another thread and then when they started merging having to go back and figure out what I missed!

None of Clancy's books ever really made a decent movie but the closest was Patriot Games.



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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
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It's kind of implausible. A Soviet spy satellite would have found the sub hidden in Maine very soon after that. The Russians would have called that an act of war.


IIRC, in the book, they "hid" the Red October in Chesapeake Bay, not in Maine.


I think that would’ve been difficult. In warm weather there are small boats crossing every square inch of the Chesapeake. Don’t know about Maine.

But I thought it was a good movie.


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My favorite Clancy book is Red Storm Rising. It portrays WW3 with the Russians attacking Europe.

I agree 100%. His best book by far imo.



Larry Bond did the heavy lifting writing that book, and he's done some good ones on his own, too. Bond is pretty good.


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Originally Posted by 5sdad
I have not read the book. Does it explain how the cook managed to be on board after "The Count" was correct when the crew was put off the sub?


He went back to get something and the CPO didn't recount as they got into the rafts.


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