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I'll say it again, the West is HUGE compared to the East. A logger buddy and I made a trip to South Carolina once to pick up a motorboat. From southern Illinois to Carolina and back was 48 hours exactly. From that same point it was two and a half days of high speed to Montana one way. Overnighted in Iowa somewhere, then Big Timber, then a half-day home. Going, we made it to Rapid City the first night, and that same town in Illinois the second.

From northern Montana to Salt Lake is a day and a half one way for normal people. At 90 mph in an A8 it's a couple hours faster. It's called the Far West for a reason.


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SLC is out.

5 nights in Ashton experiencing the Tetons and Yellowstone.

at least 3 nights around Glacier exploring the area.

My big question now is do I take a day/night away from SD and add it to Glacier.

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All good advice. Cross the river at Chamberlain SD and your in the west for sure. Dancin with Wolves country. Stop and shoot some prairie dogs then just before the badlands there is the nuclear defense museum on the right, with checking out if your a boomer. Go through the Badlands, stop at Wall Drugs, then Mt Rushmore (be sure to drive around and get the side view), catch Sheels & Cabelas. Head to Devils Tower, then stop at Gillete if there are any coal mine tours still going. On to either Buffalo or Dayton and go over the Big Horn mountains. North route you might catch some hang gliders. Out through Greybull off to Cody. ThereS a cool canyon between ther to the north. Take in the museum at Cody. Head to Cook City via Chief Joseph Scenic Byway. Do the Beartooth Pass to Redlodge. Lamar Valley in Yellowstone, Gardner Mt the North enterance, the falls, old faithfull & the old faith lodge. You got Eartquake Lake outside west Yellowstone, grand tetons & Jackson hole to the south. Its a long way to glacier nation park! I was disappointed with the Highway to the Sun after multiple trips over the Beartooth. Lots of gunshops to browse out west. Check conditions as the Beartooth was closed June 12th when we were there one year and Gacier was closed our first trip up there on the highway to the sun. Have fun!


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You could do a week in the Black Hills area alone.


Hell, I've lived here since 1994 and still have things I haven't seen in and nearby the Hills. The 5 state area centering on the Black Hills (SD, ND, WY, MT, NE) is simply amazing. smile


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I hope to take my family to South Dakota later this summer. You'll have to let us know what to see there.

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Originally Posted by Stormin_Norman
If HWY 93 between GNP and Missoula is in your route, the National Bison Range is worth a stop. South shore of flathead lake there is wild horse island, set up a tour and check out a island of Bighorn sheep.


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Bumping this up...we leave in about a week

I'd like to hear about any diners, dives, etc. that shouldn't be missed

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Originally Posted by rong
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Something that always kinda saddens me when I see these threads, many folks in the Eastern part of the country do not have a real grasp on how far it is between stops out here in the West. If you plan too many places to go and see, you will wind up driving more than seeing, driving yourself and your family nuts especially if you have children. Go to one place and stay a few days and see all there is to see there while resting up and really enjoying yourselves. For instance, Cody WY is worth 4-5 days with little side trips. You cant possibly do justice to a Yellowstone trip in a day or two. Reduce the planned number of stops and have a better time.


Gotta agree with this,when we went out a couple years ago,I had a bunch of things I wanted the boys to see ( as I've been out before).
We went into SLC overnight,drove to Jackson,+ Teton NP 2 nights,drove to YNP, camped in West Yellowstone 2n,then to Cody 2 nights, then back,total of 4x thru YNP.
The boys all say it was thier favorite vacation ,they just wish we didn't drive so much.
I took the rap for that as I really wanted to see as much as possible as I know it will be hard to get back.

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I'm not going to read through this entire thread. So, if this has already been said, I apologise.

YOU CAN'T SEE ALL THAT IN 9 DAYS.

I live a lot closer than you do to those parks and it took two separate summer vacations, each 9 days, to take my grand children to see the area.

First week (9 days);
The Mountain Man Museum in Pinedale Wyoming
Jackson Wyoming, Jackson Hole, Grand Tetons National Park, Jenny Lake
Yellowstone (4 days & 3 nights)
The Museum of the West, Cody Wyoming (2 days)

Second Week (9 days);
Dervils Tower
The Black Hills & Deadwood SD
Mount Rushmore
Wind Cave
The Badlands
Hot Springs SD, Evans PLunge, the Mammoth Fossils museum

And that doesn't even include Glacier National Park and Waterton Lakes Provincial Park. Add another week.



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The best thing about Salt Lake is that there are good freeways LEAVING it. I hate that place. It's just another big city. From SLC to Ashton, you can take I-84 but it's all desert the entire way. It's far more scenic to take the slower route through Logan/Montpelier/Alpine. It's farther but worth it.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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Dont forget to make time for the Hi Line.



We could use the money.......


What's the Hi Line?



The charming slum of Montana.





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Originally Posted by KC
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Originally Posted by jnyork
Something that always kinda saddens me when I see these threads, many folks in the Eastern part of the country do not have a real grasp on how far it is between stops out here in the West. If you plan too many places to go and see, you will wind up driving more than seeing, driving yourself and your family nuts especially if you have children. Go to one place and stay a few days and see all there is to see there while resting up and really enjoying yourselves. For instance, Cody WY is worth 4-5 days with little side trips. You cant possibly do justice to a Yellowstone trip in a day or two. Reduce the planned number of stops and have a better time.


Gotta agree with this,when we went out a couple years ago,I had a bunch of things I wanted the boys to see ( as I've been out before).
We went into SLC overnight,drove to Jackson,+ Teton NP 2 nights,drove to YNP, camped in West Yellowstone 2n,then to Cody 2 nights, then back,total of 4x thru YNP.
The boys all say it was thier favorite vacation ,they just wish we didn't drive so much.
I took the rap for that as I really wanted to see as much as possible as I know it will be hard to get back.

Bama:
I'm not going to read through this entire thread. So, if this has already been said, I apologise.

YOU CAN'T SEE ALL THAT IN 9 DAYS.

I live a lot closer than you do to those parks and it took two separate summer vacations, each 9 days, to take my grand children to see the area.

First week (9 days);
The Mountain Man Museum in Pinedale Wyoming
Jackson Wyoming, Jackson Hole, Grand Tetons National Park, Jenny Lake
Yellowstone (4 days & 3 nights)
The Museum of the West, Cody Wyoming (2 days)

Second Week (9 days);
Dervils Tower
The Black Hills & Deadwood SD
Mount Rushmore
Wind Cave
The Badlands
Hot Springs SD, Evans PLunge, the Mammoth Fossils museum

And that doesn't even include Glacier National Park and Waterton Lakes Provincial Park. Add another week.




Well, we have 18 days.

We plan on 5 nights, 5.5 days in Idaho, visiting YS and GT NP. Only thing on the agenda outside of the parks is a horseback ride. Maybe some fishing

We plan on 3 nights, 3 days outside of Glacier NP. No agenda, just the park

We plan on 2 nights, 2.5 days in SD for Mt. Rushmore, the 1880's train, and the Badlands.

There is stuff we'll miss. I'd love to spend more time in each area, but this is what we've got. I hope I've budgeted enough "windshield time"... 2.5 out, 1 between YS and Glacier, 1.5 between Glacier and SD, 2 home

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This is just me but I would not waste any time at Wall Drug. A total waste of time.

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Originally Posted by BamaCKC


Well, we have 18 days.

We plan on 5 nights, 5.5 days in Idaho, visiting YS and GT NP. Only thing on the agenda outside of the parks is a horseback ride. Maybe some fishing

We plan on 3 nights, 3 days outside of Glacier NP. No agenda, just the park

We plan on 2 nights, 2.5 days in SD for Mt. Rushmore, the 1880's train, and the Badlands.

There is stuff we'll miss. I'd love to spend more time in each area, but this is what we've got. I hope I've budgeted enough "windshield time"... 2.5 out, 1 between YS and Glacier, 1.5 between Glacier and SD, 2 home



If you are planning on touring YNP and GTNP while based in Idaho, you are going to spend a lot of time in a vehicle. If you are planning only 1 day of travel from YNP to Glacier, it is going to be a long day, and it also can get worse depending on your starting point in YNP.


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I didn't read all the replies but Rock Chuck got it mostly correct. Get off I-84 at Brigham City & go through Logan, Utah, then Preston, stay to the right to Soda Springs & down the highway 34 down the Tin Cup highway into Freedom, Wyoming. You will drive right past Freedom Arms. Then you can go into Jackson Hole & on into the park.
Or you can drive around Palisades Reservoir & into Idaho Fall & back onto I-84 & go into West Yellowstone through Ashton, lots of great scenery either way. Great view of the Teton's from either side.
When you go into the Park be sure & take food & water, I don' think any restaurants are open in the park yet.

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Well, we have 18 days.

We plan on 5 nights, 5.5 days in Idaho, visiting YS and GT NP. Only thing on the agenda outside of the parks is a horseback ride. Maybe some fishing

We plan on 3 nights, 3 days outside of Glacier NP. No agenda, just the park

We plan on 2 nights, 2.5 days in SD for Mt. Rushmore, the 1880's train, and the Badlands.

There is stuff we'll miss. I'd love to spend more time in each area, but this is what we've got. I hope I've budgeted enough "windshield time"... 2.5 out, 1 between YS and Glacier, 1.5 between Glacier and SD, 2 home



If you are planning on touring YNP and GTNP while based in Idaho, you are going to spend a lot of time in a vehicle. If you are planning only 1 day of travel from YNP to Glacier, it is going to be a long day, and it also can get worse depending on your starting point in YNP.

We're staying in Ashton, Id.Everything I've looked at shows Ashton being 45 min from the West entrance. Is this incorrect? I'm ok with 45 min.since this is country we've never seen before and terrain that will be completely new to my kids.

As far as YS to Glacier, I plan on leaving for Missoula sometime after lunch and staying overnight in Missoula. I plan on being somewhere around Hungry Horse close to lunch on Saturday. Does that sound reasonable?

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We're staying in Ashton, Id.Everything I've looked at shows Ashton being 45 min from the West entrance. Is this incorrect? I'm ok with 45 min.since this is country we've never seen before and terrain that will be completely new to my kids.

As far as YS to Glacier, I plan on leaving for Missoula sometime after lunch and staying overnight in Missoula. I plan on being somewhere around Hungry Horse close to lunch on Saturday. Does that sound reasonable?



Ashton looks like it is about 50 miles from the West entrance, which may or may not be 45 minutes depending on road conditions. But, that is a minimum hour and a half just to and from the entrance. YNP is huge, and the roads are limited to 45 mph with traffic sometimes being very bad. (This year is weird. The hotels are closed in the parks but the cabins/lodges are open. This could mean less traffic, or it could mean more because more people are driving into the parks from the outside.) If you plan to see a lot of the park, and to stop to enjoy the visitor centers and sights, and to take hikes, it it going to add up to a lot of time. The same goes for Grand Teton NP, which I assume you plan to access via Driggs, Victor and Wilson. (We did that in reverse a couple of years ago.) YMMV, depending on what you are trying to see or do, but it would be too much ground to cover for us because we like to soak up the experience rather than rush from place to place.

You should be fine staying in Missoula. Your post made it sound like a 1 day marathon from YNP to Glacier.


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Bumping this up...we leave in about a week

I'd like to hear about any diners, dives, etc. that shouldn't be missed



Colonial House family restaurant on the south end of Mt Rushmore road in Rapid City is worth a visit.
https://www.colonialhousernb.com/


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