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Originally Posted by mjbgalt
I have already consolidated. Just wondering if I have a need to add one.

Mathman is on the track I was thinking about. If the 6.5 isn't the best choice, how big do I need to go, if at all?


You need a .45-70.


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Originally Posted by DigitalDan

Originally Posted by mjbgalt
I have already consolidated. Just wondering if I have a need to add one.

Mathman is on the track I was thinking about. If the 6.5 isn't the best choice, how big do I need to go, if at all?


You need a .45-70.



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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
The longer I hunt, the less I'm convinced all this minutiae makes any difference.

Would happily hunt anything with a .308 that I've hunted with the .30-06--and these days I consider the .30-06 a "big" cartridge. Not like the .375 H&H or .416 Rigby, but even in Africa a bunch of Cape buffalo have been killed with the .30-06--or 7mm Remington Magnum, or .300 Winchester Magnum. Shoot any big game in the right place with a bullet that expands and penetrates sufficiently and they all die pretty quickly.


I haven't done as much hunting as you, but my thoughts are the same. The more I hunt, the more I realize that it really doesn't matter all that much from .270 - .300 magnum. A good bullet in the right place will handle most game. Heck, maybe even a 6.5 will do. smile

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I think like said above....

The 308 can do everything the micro bores can do.

So why own a micro bore?

The 45/70 is a freaking classic that has no comparable......unless we need to figure out the 444, 450 marlin differences.

Bottom line

Sell your micro bores......

Buy a 308 and a big bore!

Job done!


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I decided if i can't easily kill it with a ttsx from the Swede i don't wanna take the chance of pissing it off lol

Sticking with my small stuff.

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Always good to hear from guys who have shot 500 more animals than I have, to have that big sample size from which to draw information.

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I see you are in OH - keep in mind, if you ever put in for a KY elk tag, the geniuses in charge down here have a .270 caliber minimum restriction.

That might be one reason to think about bumping up above 6.5, if you ever put in for the KY elk draw.

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Bless you, fellow Looney. Lol

Eventually i will have to buy a 270 i guess wink

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I really like the 308 bore myself. Always seemed to me that it was superior to smaller bores for some things, like blood trails for instance. That said if you are hunting in the open it really doesn't matter much if the animal runs 30 yards or 150 yards it will still be easy to find generally. For an in the timber elk load a 200 grain partition going 2400fps or so is a fine combination for the bigger stuff.


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The big bears get mentioned frequently in these discussions, but unless you or close family live in Alaska or the Yukon ... you will likely be in a guided situation should you ever get to intentionally pursue said brownie. Just something to keep in mind and lesson the anxiety of not having a .458 ... you can leave that for Phil!

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Originally Posted by auk1124
I see you are in OH - keep in mind, if you ever put in for a KY elk tag, the geniuses in charge down here have a .270 caliber minimum restriction.

That might be one reason to think about bumping up above 6.5, if you ever put in for the KY elk draw.


Yeah, that wimpy 6.5-300 Weatherby just won't cut it. crazy

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Or the notoriously wimpy 6.5x55.


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Silliest thing about the KY elk rule is, the way I read it there are no case dimension restrictions or anything, just a .270 or above restriction. In theory, you could take a 9mm or .380 pistol elk hunting, but not a 6.5 rifle.

Pure genius.

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Probably some KY rule makers have CBHS.

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Originally Posted by mjbgalt
Thinking along the lines of larger stuff like bears or a moose, etc. Guessing my 6.5mm's aren't going to create the wound channel I need?


In the end, it really doesn't matter what anyone says. If your mind tells you to get something bigger, get a 30-06. It will make you happy and comfortable.


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IF I thought I needed a bigger rifle than the 6.5s, I'd pobably get an '06. When I gave my .308 to my son, I replaced it with another, just because of all the brass, bullets, and .308-friendly powder on hand. It's a great round for a bunch of reasons, but I don't think you need one, or anything else until big bears become a possibility.

What I'm wondering is how you handle the deer in Ohio; shotgun, ML, or straightwall rifle?


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Originally Posted by mjbgalt
Sold some guns and looking to consolidate. I have a 6.5 creedmoor, 6.5 Swede, 257 Roberts, and 223. Does it make sense to have a 30 caliber for bigger jobs? Or is there basically zero difference between 6.5 and .308 when it comes to stopping/killing ability due to modern bullet technology?

And yes i am redundant in my rifles but they have varying degrees of different tasks and sentimental attachment.

for deer a 5.56 will kill them fine because I have done it several times, I prefer hunting with my roberts these days, it does everything for me on deer that i want with cheap 117 grain hornady bullets. If you go somewhere you need a bigger gun, get something bigger than a 308, I sold a nice 300wsm because it burned a s--t ton of powder and did nothing on deer that a smaller gun would not do, but again depending on what your hunt you might want something bigger than that. If someone was giving guns away and I had to pick something to take almost anywhere a 375 of some type would not be a bad choice.


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
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Thinking along the lines of larger stuff like bears or a moose, etc. Guessing my 6.5mm's aren't going to create the wound channel I need?


In the end, it really doesn't matter what anyone says. If your mind tells you to get something bigger, get a 30-06. It will make you happy and comfortable.


I agree that the 30-06 is the next step up on the ladder. It’s not abusive to the shooter, but does recoil more, while making a bigger hole and wrecking more tissue. A North American hunter can be well-armed with a friendly 6.5 and a “big” 30-06.


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell


In the end, it really doesn't matter what anyone says. If your mind tells you to get something bigger, get a 30-06. It will make you happy and comfortable.



That is signature material. Good post.

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Are we seeing the rebirth of the "old boring" '06?


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