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The country is done. We'll never get it back. 70% of those under 30 are socialist, antifas, BLM sympathizers. As we die off the country will erode into a 3rd world [bleep] hole.

If the nazi's ever get all 3 branches of the fed again, they'll outlaw firearms, make legal voting by mail and proxy, etc.

America was a great idea. The slide started with welfare. It's all but over.

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Originally Posted by Ramdiesel
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Unless we slide into a full on Civil war, we are pretty much cooked.


This right here. This country needs a permanent split. Republicans and Democrat Socialist/ communists or whatever they are cannot live with each other anymore. We need a permanent and final divorce... Too many irreconcilable differences...We been forcing this marriage to work for years and it isn't going to work...It either gets settled with violence or splitting the country in half.

It won't work that way Bub. Like Wisconsin, where the split is 50-50.

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Originally Posted by Wrapids
Originally Posted by Ramdiesel
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Unless we slide into a full on Civil war, we are pretty much cooked.


This right here. This country needs a permanent split. Republicans and Democrat Socialist/ communists or whatever they are cannot live with each other anymore. We need a permanent and final divorce... Too many irreconcilable differences...We been forcing this marriage to work for years and it isn't going to work...It either gets settled with violence or splitting the country in half.

It won't work that way Bub. Like Wisconsin, where the split is 50-50.


I never said it would be easy...A lot of states are like that with the 50-50 split...I'm saying we cannot live with them anymore and they cannot live with us anymore. There is too many fundamental differences to overcome, and we are forced to live together or leave the country... What happens in a marriage like that when both sides get to the point where they can't stand the other anymore but they have no way out financially? Nothing good. At some point, this country is going to implode and it is either going to lead to a lot of violence or a lot of diplomacy that fundamentally changes the country, probably both...There is no easy solution outside of one side just kicking the crap out of the other and making them bend to their will....

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Originally Posted by 65BR
Overall.

Not the economy or stock market per se. Just overall - will civility, peace, Law and Order be restored?

Whether before or after November.

Thoughts?



Strikes me that most posters here are optimists.

I’m gonna start a thread about the awful circumstances facing our police.


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Well. we have an interesting mix of prognosticators, "it's been coming for a long time" soothsayers, and major woe-is-us predictors on here- very interesting to read a number of these thoughts and predictions. Some are knowingly creative, I'm not learned or smart enough to be any of the above.

I do seem to understand mankind a bit, and any national expectations I have come from that stem.

In almost every person there burns some flame of personal freedom - in some that flame seems dim almost to the point of disappearance, and those folks will not much decide our future. They make themselves pawns - as ever. In some, that flame burns bright and strong - an immense source of hope.

In many, many folks that flame has been unrealized/subjugated/suppressed by many factors - some due to personal interests/choices, some due to unconsidered lives, some due to devious indoctrination, etc., etc. The stirring of the flame of personal freedom, self-reliance and personal responsibility in these folks will be the deciding factor. I remain very hopeful - even with a degree of optimism..


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There will be no divorce. There is but one path forward. Someone will end up at the edge of a big hole with a pistol to the back of their head. The only choice is whether you will be the one in front of the pistol, or behind it. They want it to be you. When they want that, the only two options you have are to submit, or annihilate them. I have made my choice. Hope enough others come along. Genocide sucks. It sucks worse when you receive it than when you deal it out. It is coming because too many people failed to grasp the commitment level of the opponent in a timely fashion. Now it is coming, and we only get to choose our role in it

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Somebody is going to snap and shoot lots of people; followed by an assault weapons ban.

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The biggest mistake the "conservatives" can make, and I see it all the time, is to assume that the opposition is just a bunch of limp wrist snowflakes. Sure, a large portion of them are, but there are some dangerous folks among them as well. Why do you think Marxism spread like a disease in the last century? It wasn't because its believers were weak. They forced it, with extreme prejudice.

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The biggest mistake the "conservatives" can make, and I see it all the time, is to assume that the opposition is just a bunch of limp wrist snowflakes. Sure, a large portion of them are, but there are some dangerous folks among them as well. Why do you think Marxism spread like a disease in the last century? It wasn't because its believers were weak. They forced it, with extreme prejudice.


Exactly right ..

I read it here all the time WE HAVE GUNS - THEY DON'T --LAF -- if by chance gunfire level violence were to break out the right would loose because of the mindset I mentioned .
Antifa types are likely training military style -street tactics- while conservatives still haven't given any of it any thought .
The same way Antifa knows how to separate people so they can beat the crap out of a few - they do the same thing with guns .

They [commies] will make short quick attacks then disappear like a puff of vape smoke in strong wind .


PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!


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The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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Originally Posted by ol_mike
Originally Posted by PeeDeeRiver
The biggest mistake the "conservatives" can make, and I see it all the time, is to assume that the opposition is just a bunch of limp wrist snowflakes. Sure, a large portion of them are, but there are some dangerous folks among them as well. Why do you think Marxism spread like a disease in the last century? It wasn't because its believers were weak. They forced it, with extreme prejudice.


Exactly right ..

I read it here all the time WE HAVE GUNS - THEY DON'T --LAF -- if by chance gunfire level violence were to break out the right would loose because of the mindset I mentioned .
Antifa types are likely training military style -street tactics- while conservatives still haven't given any of it any thought .
The same way Antifa knows how to separate people so they can beat the crap out of a few - they do the same thing with guns .

They [commies] will make short quick attacks then disappear like a puff of vape smoke in strong wind .


Really? Where do they do this training and who organizes it? You seem to know a lot about an organization that doesn't even exist.

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And you once accused me of having a terrible California bias.

Originally Posted by Dryfly24
Originally Posted by Ramdiesel
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Unless we slide into a full on Civil war, we are pretty much cooked.


This right here. This country needs a permanent split. Republicans and Democrat Socialist/ communists or whatever they are cannot live with each other anymore. We need a permanent and final divorce... It either gets settled with violence or splitting the country in half.


No need for half, just let em have Kalifornia and be done with it. We’ll get it back in a few years after they implode anyway.


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Originally Posted by Reloder28
I believe God is in control. And, as Solomon said, "There is nothing new under the sun."



Yep; humans are fallen creatures and their institutions cannot stand. We as a nation will inevitably fall; like Rome it will come due to our being spoiled by own affluence. I’m dedicated to doing what I can to leave my kids & grandkids the best country I can but I am a citizen of a city whose builder and maker is God Himself.

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All of the liberals and 1/2 of the conservatives aren't worth dying for.


Nope, but being their slave aint no way to live either.



I've lived long enough for that to never happen.


My thought on the matter as well...

But I have kids.



And it will be their world to navigate, not ours.

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