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Pulled the trigger on an Edge for my ‘57 Pre-64 today. Now, I hurry up and wait. I wasn’t aware there was such a long lead time. 6 months. Patience’s a virtue they say.

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You may get lucky and get it sooner. There have been some pretty quick deliveries reported - my last was about 4 months.
What pattern did you go with?

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Hunters Edge.

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If paired with a fwt it's a great setup...I sure like mine.

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I’ve been getting my last few orders in less than 3 months so I believe there is hope you could be hunting it this fall!


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Originally Posted by JBabcock
Hunters Edge.

Glad to hear. My last order I was told they wouldn’t inlet for the pre 64 except for the pre 64 Monte Carlo ... which certainly isn’t true historically but I thought maybe something had changed. At the time I was in a hurry and didn’t want to rock the boat as Rick was helping me get an order in before the prices went up ...

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If paired with a fwt it's a great setup...I sure like mine.

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Originally Posted by handwerk
If paired with a fwt it's a great setup...I sure like mine.

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Mine is the Standard, not the Featherweight. It will still bring the weight down, and that’s a good thing. A 30-06 is my big gun now days, and I like the 24” barrel.

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The thing with pre-64’s is the area around the rear guard screw. Dropping a pre-64 into a stock pattern designed around a post-64 action often results in the bottom metal protruding 1/8 inch around the rear screw. Inletting it deeper will not help ... it’s a difference in bottom metal dimensions in that specific area that requires more material to properly accommodate the pre-64 bottom metal.

Obviously, the pre-64 Montecarlo is designed around the pre-64 and thus fit is perfect.

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Originally Posted by RickBin
The thing with pre-64’s is the area around the rear guard screw. Dropping a pre-64 into a stock pattern designed around a post-64 action often results in the bottom metal protruding 1/8 inch around the rear screw. Inletting it deeper will not help ... it’s a difference in bottom metal dimensions in that specific area that requires more material to properly accommodate the pre-64 bottom metal.

Obviously, the pre-64 Montecarlo is designed around the pre-64 and thus fit is perfect.

Heads up ...

This ^^^^^^ I purchased an extra pre-64 trigger guard. Then used a dremel and fine files to alter the contour of the rear of the trigger guard to match the stock contour.



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Originally Posted by RickBin
The thing with pre-64’s is the area around the rear guard screw. Dropping a pre-64 into a stock pattern designed around a post-64 action often results in the bottom metal protruding 1/8 inch around the rear screw. Inletting it deeper will not help ... it’s a difference in bottom metal dimensions in that specific area that requires more material to properly accommodate the pre-64 bottom metal.

Obviously, the pre-64 Montecarlo is designed around the pre-64 and thus fit is perfect.

Heads up ...


They mentioned that. I’m not to concerned with it. This is a hunting rifle and I can live with that. Just want to drop a few ounces.

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Originally Posted by JBabcock
Originally Posted by RickBin
The thing with pre-64’s is the area around the rear guard screw. Dropping a pre-64 into a stock pattern designed around a post-64 action often results in the bottom metal protruding 1/8 inch around the rear screw. Inletting it deeper will not help ... it’s a difference in bottom metal dimensions in that specific area that requires more material to properly accommodate the pre-64 bottom metal.

Obviously, the pre-64 Montecarlo is designed around the pre-64 and thus fit is perfect.

Heads up ...


They mentioned that. I’m not to concerned with it. This is a hunting rifle and I can live with that. Just want to drop a few ounces.


So you paid that much for a stock knowing it's going to need alterations and you aren't willing to do it yourself. And yes, it can be made right by going a tad deeper with the inletting. I don't know where some of you guys get your info?
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BTDT a few times. Please correct me if I'm wrong.. What you don't want to do is grind down a $50.00 original trigger guard. Please don't do that...


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What did you use to inlet that deeper? A Dremel or something like that? Doesn’t effect the trigger engagement?

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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
... BTDT a few times. Please correct me if I'm wrong.. What you don't want to do is grind down a $50.00 original trigger guard. Please don't do that...

BSA, I respect your opinion. However, I decided I would rather modify a $50 trigger guard that I can replace in a week, versus a $600+ stock with a 6 month lead time.



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Both options listed above will work, along with the option of simply leaving the trigger guard standing proud at the rear. What hasn't been mentioned specifically is that you cannot inlet the front of the trigger guard deeper due to the floor plate and latch. The trigger guard inletting will be slanted deeper to the rear resulting in an odd took to my eye. The posted picture is too close up to see that...

The preferred option for my rifles was to blend the metal properly and refinish. There are plenty of trigger guards out there with deteriorated finishes and no real collector value if yours is too nice to grind.


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Have a couple of pre-64 Featherweights and in turn have followed discussions about the various restocking options. Don't recall this stock fitting quirk pertaining to the trigger guard ever being mentioned. Glad I saw this thread and now aware that a McM Hunters Edge (my stock choice) would not be a drop in fit.

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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by JBabcock
Originally Posted by RickBin
The thing with pre-64’s is the area around the rear guard screw. Dropping a pre-64 into a stock pattern designed around a post-64 action often results in the bottom metal protruding 1/8 inch around the rear screw. Inletting it deeper will not help ... it’s a difference in bottom metal dimensions in that specific area that requires more material to properly accommodate the pre-64 bottom metal.

Obviously, the pre-64 Montecarlo is designed around the pre-64 and thus fit is perfect.

Heads up ...


They mentioned that. I’m not to concerned with it. This is a hunting rifle and I can live with that. Just want to drop a few ounces.


So you paid that much for a stock knowing it's going to need alterations and you aren't willing to do it yourself. And yes, it can be made right by going a tad deeper with the inletting. I don't know where some of you guys get your info?
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BTDT a few times. Please correct me if I'm wrong.. What you don't want to do is grind down a $50.00 original trigger guard. Please don't do that...



You now have a trigger bow that sits below the stock line. What you have done does not make things right. The correct way to do that is to alter the trigger bow. But whatever, fill your boots.

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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by JBabcock
Originally Posted by RickBin
The thing with pre-64’s is the area around the rear guard screw. Dropping a pre-64 into a stock pattern designed around a post-64 action often results in the bottom metal protruding 1/8 inch around the rear screw. Inletting it deeper will not help ... it’s a difference in bottom metal dimensions in that specific area that requires more material to properly accommodate the pre-64 bottom metal.

Obviously, the pre-64 Montecarlo is designed around the pre-64 and thus fit is perfect.

Heads up ...


They mentioned that. I’m not to concerned with it. This is a hunting rifle and I can live with that. Just want to drop a few ounces.




So you paid that much for a stock knowing it's going to need alterations and you aren't willing to do it yourself. And yes, it can be made right by going a tad deeper with the inletting. I don't know where some of you guys get your info?
Before:
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[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

After:
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BTDT a few times. Please correct me if I'm wrong.. What you don't want to do is grind down a $50.00 original trigger guard. Please don't do that...



Fortunately, pleasing you is the furthest thing from my mind. And frankly I’m not the least bit concerned if it protrudes some. And if I decide it needs to be cleaned up, I’d modify another trigger guard, before I changed the geometry of the stock. It’s a hunting rifle. Not a safe queen.

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Here are some trigger guard heel pics of my last McMillan order from a few years ago. Pre-64 inlet, featherweight pattern.

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That doesn’t look bad to me. Thanks for the pics.


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