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Hogan's Hero's German with Krag. #15002577 06/27/20
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Watch Hogan's Hero's on the tube while getting motivated to go fishing.

The German guards are totin krags. I wonder how many surplus krags were used as movie props. I need to shoot my Springfield some.


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Originally Posted by PPosey
Watch Hogan's Hero's on the tube while getting motivated to go fishing.

The German guards are totin krags. I wonder how many surplus krags were used as movie props. I need to shoot my Springfield some.



That actually was a Danish or Norwegian Krag confiscated after Denmark or Norway was occupied and reissued to third line troops like POW camp guards.

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There was an old Gene Autry movie where he was selling horses to the army. All the troops were armed with what looked like Philippine Constibulary Krags.


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Then there was "the good, the Bad, and the Ugly," with Clint Eastwood putting cartridges in muzzle loading revolvers.


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Many of the WW2 movies show German soldiers using WW1 Mauser rifles, and wearing the WW1 style helmets. Also, they show Japs using the WW1 Mausers.

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Originally Posted by JamesJr
Many of the WW2 movies show German soldiers using WW1 Mauser rifles, and wearing the WW1 style helmets. Also, they show Japs using the WW1 Mausers.

the 91/30 is a wwi straight pull, made in hungary and in vienna. the 30 comes from their being cut down from the wwi version used by the austro hungarian empire, and issued to second line troops, police, etc.
as to the mauser, i asked a guy once served in russia, he said they preferred the wwi mauser to the k98 , said it was more accurate.


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Ron,

The Austrian straight pull was the 1895 Steyr. Wasn’t it?

91/30 was a Moison/Nagant.

Not that it really matters

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Originally Posted by PPosey
Watch Hogan's Hero's on the tube while getting motivated to go fishing.

The German guards are totin krags. I wonder how many surplus krags were used as movie props. I need to shoot my Springfield some.

Yep, Sergeant Schultz always toted a Krag-Jorgensen.

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Sometimes the German camp guards are seen toting Thompson submachine guns.


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The reason I heard props gave him a Krag-Jorgenson was a 98k looked like a toy when he handled it. Too Small for his physique

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Forgot Sgt. Schultz's real name, but heard on another web site that he was Jewish and had relatives who had perished in a concentration camp. For that reason he refused to carry a K98, and the show's producers obliged him and found out that the Germans had captured a lot of Krags and many were indeed issued to non - front line troops like guards and security personnel. So supposedly him carrying a Krag was historically correct for many, but not all, guards. Read this on another internet site so I can't vouch for its authenticity. Any truth to it ?

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I dunno???

But what a singing duo!



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Originally Posted by 22250rem
Forgot Sgt. Schultz's real name, but heard on another web site that he was Jewish and had relatives who had perished in a concentration camp. For that reason he refused to carry a K98, and the show's producers obliged him and found out that the Germans had captured a lot of Krags and many were indeed issued to non - front line troops like guards and security personnel. So supposedly him carrying a Krag was historically correct for many, but not all, guards. Read this on another internet site so I can't vouch for its authenticity. Any truth to it ?


Here's a link for the Sgt. Schultz info. Both he and Col. Klink were Jewish.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0052308/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm


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Klinks real life brother was quite the orchestra conductor too!


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At least three Jews in the regulor cast.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by PPosey
Watch Hogan's Hero's on the tube while getting motivated to go fishing.

The German guards are totin krags. I wonder how many surplus krags were used as movie props. I need to shoot my Springfield some.

Yep, Sergeant Schultz always toted a Krag-Jorgensen.

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Sometimes the German camp guards are seen toting Thompson submachine guns.

What caliber do you think that is, huge or a photo distortion?

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Several Krags show up in "For Whom the Bell Tolls" with Gary Cooper.
Robert Clary is also Jewish and a concentration camp survivor.

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That is very interesting, I never caught that

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This extended beyond small arms. Skip to 3:20 for a look at the dreaded German Me-51's. Thank God the Luftwaffe only had a few of them....






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German Uniforms and decorations in the show
are overall not too bad...Gestapo ones prob. a bit
over the top..

Col. Klink wore....
>WW1 Iron Cross 1st class., (with WW2 clasp)
which means he received a second award.
>Pilot's Badge
>Ground Combat Badge.

Schultz wore...
>German Sports Badge.
> NCO Lace, but it has an error In that
it only runs around three sides of the
shoulder straps.
>Schultz had the correct brown leather for
Luftwaffe, opposed to black for Heer.

They certainly didn't use crappy tacky props.


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i watched an interview with werner klemperer (klink) and he said when he was asked to play the part of a german pow commander in a comedy, he thought they were crazy. he said the only way he would play it was if he could make him a buffoon, which he did. he was an interesting person and a good actor. i love that show. i have them all on dvd and thats what i watch on cold nights at my camp.


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