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Starting July 1, hikers who want to use Colorado's State Wildlife areas and State Trust lands will have to have a hunting or fishing license. It's about time these people will be asked to help with the financial burden of maintaining our wildlife areas.
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Interesting. Wonder if other western states will follow the path?
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Giving the bird watchers and tree huggers a stake and therefore a say in State wildlife management doesn't seem like the best idea for hunters.
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Arizona requires a hunting license, fishing license or recreational permit to enter on state trust lands.
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Giving the bird watchers and tree huggers a stake and therefore a say in State wildlife management doesn't seem like the best idea for hunters. They’ve always had a say.
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Giving the bird watchers and tree huggers a stake and therefore a say in State wildlife management doesn't seem like the best idea for hunters. yep , before it was colorado parks it was division of wildlife, things were hugely different before the "state" got its hands on licensing .
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Giving the bird watchers and tree huggers a stake and therefore a say in State wildlife management doesn't seem like the best idea for hunters. That ship has long since sailed in CO, where the general voting public is allowed to make decisions about things like banning spring bear hunting and soon, reintroduction of wolves.
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Giving the bird watchers and tree huggers a stake and therefore a say in State wildlife management doesn't seem like the best idea for hunters. That ship has long since sailed in CO, where the general voting public is allowed to make decisions about things like banning spring bear hunting and soon, reintroduction of wolves. Sierra Club, PETA, etc., etc. They’ve always had a say and they regularly exercise that say via the courts. You don’t have to look far to see that.
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Giving the bird watchers and tree huggers a stake and therefore a say in State wildlife management doesn't seem like the best idea for hunters. That ship has long since sailed in CO, where the general voting public is allowed to make decisions about things like banning spring bear hunting and soon, reintroduction of wolves. Sierra Club, PETA, etc., etc. They’ve always had a say and they regularly exercise that say via the courts. You don’t have to look far to see that. The general public doesn't have much say on management here. Seasons and bag limits are decided by the conservation council which is made up of biologists from DEC, farmers, hunters and representatives from the auto insurance and logging industries . Anybody is allowed to use State land here for hiking, camping, bird watching, horseback riding, hunting, fishing and trapping. No license required unless you are hunting, fishing or trapping.
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Giving the bird watchers and tree huggers a stake and therefore a say in State wildlife management doesn't seem like the best idea for hunters. That’s what I was thinking. They will now have some say an the management of these areas.
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I'm a non-resident and hunt Colorado every year, I don't think it's a good idea but I don't live there. A group of hunters here in New Jersey wanted to do the same thing but it was shot down by other hunting groups. The reason is we didn't want bird watchers, hikers and horse riders having a say in what goes on in State Gamelands. The first thing they will want to do is ban hunting!
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Giving the bird watchers and tree huggers a stake and therefore a say in State wildlife management doesn't seem like the best idea for hunters. They’ve always had a say. Birdwatchers tend to volunteer to be Bird counters. Wildlife agencies tend to use Bird counts as an indicator since they are more mobile/visible (I think). More sportsmen volunteering for counts would help with our voice in the agencies ear. It's also good for practicing woodcraft and a great opportunity to get out where you can't hear the doom'n'gloomers...
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Giving the bird watchers and tree huggers a stake and therefore a say in State wildlife management doesn't seem like the best idea for hunters. That ship has long since sailed in CO, where the general voting public is allowed to make decisions about things like banning spring bear hunting and soon, reintroduction of wolves. Sierra Club, PETA, etc., etc. They’ve always had a say and they regularly exercise that say via the courts. You don’t have to look far to see that. The general public doesn't have much say on management here. Seasons and bag limits are decided by the conservation council which is made up of biologists from DEC, farmers, hunters and auto insurance representatives. Anybody is allowed to use State land here for hiking, camping, bird watching, horseback riding, hunting, fishing and trapping. No license required unless you are hunting, fishing or trapping. I see your point and it’s a good one. But never underestimate the power of lawsuits to throw a knot into that. That history is written in stone as we speak, e.g., Wolf, grizzlies, etc.
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A fishing or hunting license........to hike?
Stupidity......just another tax, underhanded revenue grab.
Too many sheep are OK with a new tax......as long as it hits the other side.
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A fishing or hunting license........to hike? ......just another tax, underhanded revenue grab. Yep, that’s ALL it is. Government’s primary mandate anymore is to extort as much money from the citizenry as they possibly can. It may be done ‘under the guise’ of being for this or for that...but it’s just another extortionist move by the state government. All governments in America do it...and it begins at the local level and goes up from there. They are rotten to the core.
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