Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire 600,000 American jobs filled by h-1b's

I think this is a low estimate for sure. The IT department I work at in the US is filled with H1B workers from India, China, Vietnam, etc...A lot of them have made it into management and only hire and promote their "own kind" usually. Maybe that's a hidden corporate policy where I work but not sure. Also, for the last 2 to 3 years, any position that came open in the US had to be filled by someone at our office in India. They cannot hire anyone here in the US to fill the open position..If you're a US worker and want to promote yourself by applying for a position within the company that is better, that's just tough, you don't have any chance in heck of getting the position...The position goes to someone in India.... Don't know how they get away with this [bleep].

Sorry, but horse manure is still horse manure.

Americans did not want to work at the wage you offered. There is, however, a wage at which you could have hired Americans. Everyone has their price.

And then you used the power of the federal government to pervert the labor market by injecting aliens into that market. Those aliens cost more than the wage they were paid. Your neighbors had to pay the cost to keep them policed, to fix them up when they injured themselves on your farm, and suchlike. So much for "love your neighbor," more like, "screw your neighbor blue while making the green."

The fancy economic term for such labor market perversion "privatized profits, socialized costs." You're not alone, so many folks are doing it as well as rent-seeking.



Not just "the American People," but also one's neighbors and fellow tax-payers.

Acting like there is a now problem that is newly caused.
Some of the tobacco workers in my area (we grow cigar wrap) are fifth-generation. And the farms are 200 years old or more.
Think about it.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.................period!!!

Do you farm?..........I'll answer that for you...........NO, you don't.

Why do the Mennonites and Amish do it?

For schits and grins?

Once again.

Didn’t Trump just this past week sign the order limiting and curtailing exactly what is being talked about here or are y’all so wrapped up in Marthafarkin each other than to just simply read ?

Buncha fuggin idiots.

Did you read the link in the OP?

Did you see Trump sign the order?

There is a reason for everything..........think about it? I am as much against foreign workers coming here and taking away jobs that Americans do as anybody is................but the key words are "jobs that Americans do", and unfortunately there are jobs that Americans don't want to do, and that's because those jobs are either too hard or don't pay as much as they think they're worth.

Before a farmer can hire H-2A workers, they have to run ads in local newspapers for a period of weeks before those jobs start, giving American workers the chance to get that job first, at the same wage as a H-2A worker would recieve. Let's say they have 10 jobs available, and 3 Americans apply, then they have to hire them first, before they can bring in the 7 remaining migrant workers. Right now the average pay is around $15 an hour, with transportation and living quarters furnished. They are regularly inspected and the workers questioned about how well they're being treated. I don't know of any farmer who has hired an American worker for one of the positions they have.

Agricultural work is mostly seasonal, and if a man is wanting a job, he's more than likely wanting a full time one, which may be why there are American workers who don't want these kind of jobs. But, there are plenty of low skilled Americans who could, if they wanted to, work in the farm jobs that are out there, providing they wanted to..............and that's it, they don't want to. It's much easier for them to figure out other ways of getting money rather than do a hard days work..............stealing, selling drugs, living off their girlfriends, claiming disability, and so on and so forth.

Do you have a tattoo on your ass with an arrow pointing to "HERE"?

[bleep] Americans..... Demand high wages and benefits for the least amount of work they can get by with, then buy only the cheapest imported [bleep] they can find.
Just like the protestors demanding all kinds of [bleep] from "the govt" but contribute nothing to it.

Blind leading the stupid here anymore.

These foreign workers aren’t exactly known for going out and buying the best, most expensive American made items either.

In our state's Ag industry, we have thousands of H2 workers. Without them, most growers would have gone out business. Most growers tell me that domestic labor at 15.00 per hour has a lower hourly cost than H2. Growers issues with domestic labor are they fail to show up for work, getting domestic labor to actually work when they do show up and domestic labor does not want to do ag work. Without H2 workers in Ag, grocery stores Shelves would be empty.

I don't pay much attention to immigration stuff.

Did you read the link in the OP?

To a man, farmers will tell you that the one thing that makes the H-2A workers the most desirable is the fact that you know they will be on the job the next day. With domestic labor, that is not the case.

Well just ignore and pay no attention to this as it about immigration and foreign workers. You might be on the wrong thread.

They aren't technically part of the problem. They're the effects of it. No reason they would look out for the long term viability of the U.S. economy.
Americans are being conditioned to be ashamed of our country. Puppets on a string, and the ones pulling the strings definitely don't have America's best interests in mind.

His point is that the link talks about the issue, in the specific context of Trump’s recent order.

What about the time a little while back when domestic workers were willing to do farm and ranch work, and the owners still paid peanuts for the work? Where I grew up in the farm and ranch country in Texas there were plenty of willing high school / college aged white dudes doing manual back breaking labor on farms and ranches and all making minimum wage at best/ sometimes less. And, it was same ole story, the farm cant make any money if they pay more. Meanwhle, the farmer/ rancher is living in a mansion with a pool and hot tub, his wife driving a caddy, his son or daughter a high powered sports car or brand new truck, and him driving a brand new diesel truck, and a new bass boat sitting in the yard. Yeah, im sure he can't find any way to pay his workers more and have the farm make money...There was a ton of American Citizens working in the oil fields too around where I grew up barely getting by paycheck to paycheck...Greedy fuggers just be greedy and love them some slave labor...