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I’ve got a chance to practice Hi-Power on a 200 yd range. Looking for a good .308 load for that distance using 150 grain bullets.

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Can't help with a 150.

With a 168 about 39 or 39.5 grains of 3031 in LC brass is really good.

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Originally Posted by mathman
Can't help with a 150.

With a 168 about 39 or 39.5 grains of 3031 in LC brass is really good.

Dang right. That is a great load.

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Originally Posted by mathman
Can't help with a 150.

With a 168 about 39 or 39.5 grains of 3031 in LC brass is really good.

Come on mathman, you have some tried and true 150gr loads that would work. I know you are a 308 lover and have tried a few 150gr loads. Hell, i hate the 308 and could come up with some tried and proven loads for the 308 rifles ive owned in the past. Use Varget, RL15, 4064 etc. Somewhere in the 45gr ballpark for any of those powders.


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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by mathman
Can't help with a 150.

With a 168 about 39 or 39.5 grains of 3031 in LC brass is really good.

Come on mathman, you have some tried and true 150gr loads that would work. I know you are a 308 lover and have tried a few 150gr loads. Hell, i hate the 308 and could come up with some tried and proven loads for the 308 rifles ive owned in the past. Use Varget, RL15, 4064 etc. Somewhere in the 45gr ballpark for any of those powders.


Yeah, but the way the OP was written I suspected an M1A may be involved so my 150 grain loads (which tended to be stiff, like 47+ grains of Varget in Lapua brass) wouldn't be appropriate. The 200 yard specific request also led me to think a lighter type load was desired. My experiments with short to mid range target loads have been about 2550 +/- fps with a 168. Think along the lines of LC M852 match. Those loads have worked from very to extremely well in every rifle tried.

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Take a look at Nosler's online 7.62x51 data. They show several potential mild accuracy load prospects.

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I would think that you could easily find a load with the tried and true 4895's/Varget/4064/RL15. I personally am intrigued with the idea of 3031. I have also heard the 3031 load duplicated Federal Gold Medal but cannot give you any personal experience with that.

I will add that the best shooters in my area using 7.62 shoot 125's or 135's for short line loads. I believe 3031 is the popular powder for that.

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Thanks for the replies. I am loading for one of the last factory built Model 70 target rifles and I do want a lighter load. Will try the 168/3031 combo but I have a bunch of 150 gr match bullets that would be perfect for a light 200 Yd. load. I have a bunch of RL 15 and Imr 4895, some Varget. Sorry I didn’t provide more details at the beginning.

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What brass will you be using?

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You looking for a reduced recoil load?...or just a load to seat some 150's on top of? Since you're shooting a bolt gun, you have zero constraints on powder and brass...therefore any accuracy load for hunting or whatever will work. If you want something highpower specific, there's good data out there for the Sierra 2155 and 2156 bullets that will transpose readily to a 150. If rapid fire is part of your equation, I'd make sure you size your brass for easy and reliable cycling and load on the mild end of the spectrum.

A little more about goals and expectations would be helpful.


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I'm sorry I just read your clarification.
I actually have little experience with this specific situation. By the time I started competing, The caliber restriction was gone and the sub 30's had taken hold. No one was shooting reduced recoil 30's out of a bolt gun. They were shooting 6mm's and 22's. I did play with 125's and 130's out of an M14 (and even 110's). But I had a gas system to account for which limited how low and what type of powder. Things you don't have to worry about.
I think you'll find this thread helpful.
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/12517810/1

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I like to load light for practice in all of my rifles. In the 308, anything that pushes 150's to 2300-2400 fps at the muzzle makes a pleasant load to shoot. Powders which do this very well include 4198 (29 grains or so) RL7, (30 gr) and 3031 (33 gr). I would expect 35 of varget would be pretty good. All of these shoot well under moa in my Model 70. GD

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I shot a lot of 200 cleans, reduced course match, slow fire prone, using Sierra 150 Pro Hunters over a now forgotten charge of 4320. 40-X, RP brass, RP primers.
In fact shot that bullet XC in most all 200 yrd matches. Excellent projectile.

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Speer 125 TNT was my go to for 200yd. Can't remember now but probably used IMR4895, .308 bolt guns.

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Originally Posted by KyWindageII
I’ve got a chance to practice Hi-Power on a 200 yd range. Looking for a good .308 load for that distance using 150 grain bullets.

I've had good luck with 45.5grs of TAC or 46.5grs of Varget with 150gr Ballistic Tips.Both these loads ran around 2900fps in my rifle.


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Around 40 grains of 4895 with a 150 is mild but consistent. Around 35 of Reloader 7 is also very good. Varget works but I have always gotten better accuracy at low pressure levels with 4895. With around 40 grains and a Sierra MK, if it doesn't shoot, there is something wrong with the rifle. I once shot a 308 Light Varmint rifle and this was the load I used. Best aggregate, for five 5 shot groups, was around .260. Best group was .108". The same load, but with 168's, was a little hotter and still shot well. This was my 300 meter load. GD

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GD,

Is IMR4895 a safe assumption?

Also what weight class of brass?

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The 168gr Sierra Match King is made for the 308. Use 37.1gr of 3031 and it lays them in there. Accurate and low recoil. I've used prepped Winchester cases but doesn't matter so long as they're prepped. Federal benches primers or Winchester.

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I have been using surplus, H, and IMR 4895 interchangeably for years. Only if the loads are at the top end of the scale do I make any distinction. Likewise with brass. Lake City brass, which is on the heavy side, will produce higher velocities with the same loads but, since we are discussing lighter loads, there is no safety concern. I have always leaned toward the heavier brass for lighter loads on the assumption that the smaller capacity complements the lighter power charge. I freely admit, this advantage may exist nowhere outside of my imagination! I often relegate Federal brass to light load duty just because it is soft and won't last with high pressure loads.
I use the same loads in both the 303 British and the 30/40 Krag, both of which are similar to the 308 in capacity, as well. Performance is just the same as in the 308. GD

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similar old(er) High Power match short course load

1. 125g Speer TNT, 40.0g older IMR4895, Win brass, WLR primer
2. 150g Sierra ProHunter, 40.0g older IMR4895, Win brass, WLR primer

I used a lot more of the 125g Speers, bulk pack little plastic ammo box

Either shot better than I could in short course 100y & 200y.

A Jim Cloward M70 pre-64 in 308. Good times.

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