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I picked up some Shooters Pro Shop discount 200 gr .35 cal Accubonds recently. I’m considering trying CFE223, as I have a good supply on hand.

Nodker lists a limited selection of powder in their loadcdata, and CFE223 isn’t one.

The only published data I’ve found for 200gr bullets with CFE223 in the Whelen is Sierra, and their charge weights seem uniformly warm.

I was curious if anyone has used CFE223 with The 200 gr Noslers? I’d be interested to hear about accuracy and charge weights.

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Looks like it would kill stuff:

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Cartridge          : .35 Whelen
Bullet             : .358, 200, Nosler AccuBond 54425
Useable Case Capaci: 61.701 grain H2O = 4.006 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon CFE223 *C

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.747% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-07.5  100    62.00   2708    3257   46767   7516     93.4    1.171
-06.7  101    62.50   2732    3315   48054   7580     93.8    1.157
-06.0  102    63.00   2756    3373   49365   7643     94.2    1.143  ! Near Maximum !
-05.2  102    63.50   2780    3431   50750   7704     94.6    1.129  ! Near Maximum !
-04.5  103    64.00   2803    3490   52161   7763     94.9    1.116  ! Near Maximum !
-03.7  104    64.50   2827    3550   53626   7821     95.3    1.102  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0  105    65.00   2851    3611   55134   7877     95.6    1.089  ! Near Maximum !
-02.2  106    65.50   2875    3671   56692   7931     96.0    1.076  ! Near Maximum !
-01.5  106    66.00   2899    3733   58301   7983     96.3    1.063  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
-00.7  107    66.50   2923    3795   59967   8033     96.6    1.051  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.0  108    67.00   2947    3858   61687   8081     96.9    1.038  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.7  109    67.50   2971    3921   63468   8128     97.2    1.026  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.5  110    68.00   2996    3985   65313   8172     97.5    1.013  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.2  110    68.50   3020    4050   67222   8214     97.7    1.001  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  111    69.00   3044    4115   69195   8254     98.0    0.989  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.7  112    69.50   3068    4180   71244   8291     98.2    0.977  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 3% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 3% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    108    67.00   2998    3993   65452   8093     98.3    1.013  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 3% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    108    67.00   2892    3714   58073   8028     95.2    1.065  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!



Over all, it appears to have some of the best potential for your bullet choice.

I'd sure give it a try:

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Cartridge          : .35 Whelen
Bullet             : .358, 200, Nosler AccuBond 54425
Useable Case Capaci: 61.701 grain H2O = 4.006 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 57250 psi, or 394 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 108 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

59 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 75%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
IMR 3031                           107.0     56.9     3.69    2885   100.0    57250    7130   1.077  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE223 *C                  105.9     65.7     4.26    2884    96.1    57250    7949   1.072  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                           105.6     60.1     3.89    2878    97.7    57250    7798   1.084  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Big Game                   106.0     64.2     4.16    2876    97.3    57250    7749   1.073  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748                      98.2     60.1     3.90    2875    99.3    57250    7473   1.076  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2                      100.8     62.6     4.05    2873    98.6    57250    7691   1.083  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B *C                      106.9     60.8     3.94    2865    97.6    57250    7693   1.086  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 *C              106.3     60.5     3.92    2861    97.1    57250    7695   1.086  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495                      103.4     57.5     3.73    2858   100.0    57250    7037   1.114  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Match Rifle         103.6     60.7     3.93    2855    99.7    57250    7300   1.094  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6                       103.6     60.7     3.93    2855    99.7    57250    7300   1.094  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520                      101.3     60.7     3.93    2855    99.7    57250    7300   1.094  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895                      102.3     58.2     3.77    2849    98.1    57250    7531   1.089  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant AR-Comp *C *T              101.8     56.0     3.63    2848   100.0    57250    6561   1.080  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Wild Boar                  100.6     61.1     3.96    2844    97.5    57250    7534   1.084  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                      108.0     62.1     4.02    2842    98.2    55171    7633   1.107  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206H                       102.6     58.3     3.78    2841    97.6    57250    7515   1.091  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                       107.5     62.5     4.05    2837    95.4    57250    7632   1.091  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320                           107.8     60.3     3.91    2834    97.3    57250    7389   1.076  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540 *C                 105.6     60.7     3.94    2831    99.8    57250    7215   1.089  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335                        93.1     57.8     3.75    2830    99.9    57250    7096   1.087  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202 *C                       103.3     57.8     3.75    2829    99.9    57250    7090   1.092  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Precision           107.3     59.4     3.85    2827    98.7    57250    7291   1.097  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S062                         107.3     59.4     3.85    2827    98.7    57250    7291   1.097  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                      108.0     60.1     3.89    2826    99.9    54230    7310   1.135  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322                        98.7     54.5     3.53    2824   100.0    57250    6867   1.084  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2219                         92.7     54.5     3.53    2824   100.0    57250    6867   1.084  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530 *C                  98.4     56.3     3.65    2822    98.7    57250    7234   1.089  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 *T              108.0     64.4     4.18    2818    96.3    50297    8141   1.124  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201 *C                       103.7     57.7     3.74    2813    98.7    57250    7233   1.104  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 8208 XBR                       100.6     57.2     3.71    2812    98.6    57250    7147   1.091  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208                        107.8     59.5     3.86    2809    96.7    57250    7318   1.085  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460                       96.3     58.9     3.82    2807    99.2    57250    7054   1.107  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.5                        96.5     58.9     3.82    2807    99.2    57250    7054   1.107  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET *T                  108.0     59.4     3.85    2805    96.7    56965    7308   1.088  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC *C                      99.7     61.1     3.96    2793    94.6    57250    7336   1.095  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World AR Plus              94.7     57.7     3.74    2793    99.2    57250    6926   1.104  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.4                        94.7     57.7     3.74    2793    99.2    57250    6926   1.104  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12                  98.2     57.0     3.69    2790   100.0    57250    6688   1.092  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230                       95.6     58.9     3.82    2790    98.1    57250    7017   1.102  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                     108.0     65.0     4.21    2788    90.8    51913    7793   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                       108.0     65.0     4.21    2788    90.8    51913    7793   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator *C             97.2     59.0     3.83    2785    97.3    57250    7103   1.097  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x *C              96.0     51.5     3.34    2785   100.0    57250    6421   1.104  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2200                       99.6     57.5     3.73    2782    95.8    57250    7144   1.093  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2210                         93.2     54.7     3.55    2777    99.2    57250    6850   1.097  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064                           108.0     58.0     3.76    2776    96.7    55363    7146   1.105  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2015                       98.8     53.8     3.48    2773   100.0    57250    6371   1.109  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                       108.0     62.3     4.04    2767    91.3    56819    7281   1.104  ! Near Maximum !
ADI BM2                             91.1     55.2     3.58    2767    99.1    57250    6783   1.098  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark                   99.0     55.5     3.59    2767    99.0    57250    6793   1.098  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Tactical Rifle       93.8     56.8     3.68    2766    98.3    57250    6817   1.098  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 200 *C                        92.1     51.2     3.32    2763   100.0    57250    6252   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S060                         101.8     56.3     3.65    2760    97.5    57250    6874   1.097  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206                        101.0     56.8     3.68    2751    97.9    57250    6789   1.098  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N133 *C                 104.6     54.5     3.53    2744   100.0    57250    6151   1.098  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4198                            94.9     48.4     3.14    2736   100.0    57250    5928   1.092  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140 *C                 108.0     59.0     3.82    2736    98.4    53360    6864   1.124  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 1680                       82.8     49.1     3.18    2736   100.0    57250    6199   1.099  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4166 Enduron *C*T              108.0     58.8     3.81    2734    92.1    56240    6994   1.108  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE BLK *C                  90.1     54.4     3.52    2730    98.6    57250    6586   1.105  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N130 *C                  98.5     52.4     3.39    2730   100.0    57250    6053   1.107  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2207                         90.4     48.1     3.11    2728   100.0    57250    5881   1.109  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C                 108.0     62.8     4.07    2727    93.2    46945    7694   1.171
IMR 4451 Enduron *C*T              108.0     60.7     3.93    2726    91.3    53820    7150   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-7                   89.7     49.4     3.20    2725   100.0    57250    5992   1.111  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4198                       91.5     48.9     3.17    2721   100.0    57250    6135   1.096  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Buffalo Rifle        80.8     43.0     2.78    2718   100.0    57250    6012   1.096  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D060                          80.8     43.0     2.78    2718   100.0    57250    6012   1.096  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 5744                       79.0     43.0     2.78    2718   100.0    57250    6012   1.096  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700                      107.7     63.9     4.14    2713    90.9    57250    6799   1.109  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon LVR                        108.0     61.4     3.98    2710    92.3    47407    7474   1.165
Vihtavuori N135 *C                 108.0     55.7     3.61    2701   100.0    48932    6539   1.167

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Thanks for looking at this! I’m assuming this is a QuickLOAD output? If I’m reading it right, the max CFE223 charge would be 65.7 gr for the given parameters?

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I tried several powders with that 200gr AB, including CFE, trying to get to 2900 fps with accuracy. I got the velocity with CFE, but not the accuracy. My results were FAR away from Nosler's load data. Turned out that H4895 was my powder. I got to 2950 with no pressure signs, but the load producing 2910 was more accurate with less velocity variance. I've not killed anything with it yet, but it may end up getting slung at a bear or an elk this year.


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Originally Posted by Tannhauser
Thanks for looking at this! I’m assuming this is a QuickLOAD output? If I’m reading it right, the max CFE223 charge would be 65.7 gr for the given parameters?


Tannhauser,

Yes, the output is from Quickload. The table of various powders I provided is about 3% below SAAMI max to allow for variations in powder lots etc. Keep in mind, since a lot of Whelens were built on odd actions, the SAAMI specss are pretty low, at around 58K PSI. If your rifle's built on a strong modern action, you may have some additional room to play. As always, if you choose to play, do so carefully.


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I also use H-4895 but my load in a 24” barrel with the 200 gr Accubond tops out at a little over 2700 fps (Labradar chronograph).

Whoa, 2900 fps + is in 358 Norma territory IIRC


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Nosler's data goes up to 2900 with 8208 in a 26" bbl. I couldn't get near that before I hit pressure in a 24". H4895 has a slower burn rate. I don't mind stepping beyond 60K psi. The same brass in 270 Win is loaded to 65K. I think much of the data for the Whelen is conservative, and uses older powders that are not optimal. I didn't feel like I was stretching anything outside of any safe limitation. The H4895 in my gun didn't produce a steep pressure curve.

I'm getting prepped for a move right now, and can't find that particular load notebook, or I would tell you exactly what charges I shot of which powders, and what my results were. I use a Shaw 24" Midway special barrel, tightly headspaced, new Hornady brass which caused a small amount of resistance upon closing the bolt, CCI 200's. When the primers started cratering, I was too warm. That was the "pressure" standard I chose.

If you look at the new Speer data, 180's are loaded to 3172 fps and the 220's are loaded to 2826. Given that, with the right powder, 3000fps with a 200 should be possible within pressure spec for the Whelen.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Tannhauser
Thanks for looking at this! I’m assuming this is a QuickLOAD output? If I’m reading it right, the max CFE223 charge would be 65.7 gr for the given parameters?


Tannhauser,

Yes, the output is from Quickload. The table of various powders I provided is about 3% below SAAMI max to allow for variations in powder lots etc. Keep in mind, since a lot of Whelens were built on odd actions, the SAAMI specss are pretty low, at around 58K PSI. If your rifle's built on a strong modern action, you may have some additional room to play. As always, if you choose to play, do so carefully.


Thanks for the clarification.

My rifle is an early:mid 80’s 700 ADL rebored by JES, so a modern, strong action.

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Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
I tried several powders with that 200gr AB, including CFE, trying to get to 2900 fps with accuracy. I got the velocity with CFE, but not the accuracy. My results were FAR away from Nosler's load data. Turned out that H4895 was my powder. I got to 2950 with no pressure signs, but the load producing 2910 was more accurate with less velocity variance. I've not killed anything with it yet, but it may end up getting slung at a bear or an elk this year.


Do you have handy the charge weights where you found the accuracy node? H5895 was another powder I was considering to use for working up a load.

Frankly, I’ll take accuracy over speed for my application. I’d love to have both of course, and CFE223 is such an easy metering, ckean but ing powder does it would be ideal. But if I can’t get the accuracy I want, I’ll move on.

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I found my load notes.

Temp 85-90 degrees. Negligible wind. As stated previously, new Hornady brass, CCI200, COL 3.340", approx .045" from lands. I didn't look for accuracy nodes, since this is a 400 yd max shooter. I wanted powders that wouldn't lose a lot of velocity in cold temps. Vel average is 5 shots. I don't have the time to make this look pretty....

CFE 223 63gr 2760 64gr 2772 65gr 2837 66gr 2895 Accuracy got better as charges went up, and extreme spread shrank. Didn't try 67. 66 Looked pretty warm, and I didn't want to pull the trigger on them.

R-15 60gr 2743 61gr 2777 62gr 2836. 62 was tops I wanted to shoot. All were acceptable accuracy with low extreme spread.

H4895 58gr 2824 59gr 2886 60gr 2930 61gr 2971. Good extreme spread. Accuracy got better as charge increased. 61 pretty spicy. Shoot again 59-61.

TAC 61gr 2923 62gr 2936 63gr 2936. Accuracy not great. Maybe seat deeper. Low ES. Shoot again?



Shot the 4895 stuff again later, 59, 60, 61. 40 degrees, variable half-value wind, 5-20mph. 5 shots each. All velocities dropped approx 20 fps, 59-2862, 60-2910, 61-2951. I settled for 60 at 2910 because the 5 shot extreme spread was 26 fps over my Pro-Chrono from 10 feet. Accuracy in the wind created an elongated group, just over one and a quarter inches at exactly 100 yds for 5. I was trying to get the rig ready for hunting, so was looking for "good enough". I listed only shorthand conclusions in my notes for 59gr (NOT GOOD) and 61gr (NOT AS GOOD) I remember accuracy was acceptable for all, but 60 shot the best, and 61 just kept nagging at me as too much. There was zero bolt lift or primer issues, but it FELT like too much, and I didn't need the extra speed.

When I did the final sight-in with the 60 gr load, 3 went into just under an inch at 100.

Somewhere in my notes was 8208 test results, but I don't see them. They were poor for me, falling about 200 fps below Nosler's data, and hitting pressure at about 2700fps. I should do some more testing with TAC eventually, but I've already become attached to the H4895 load and feel confident in it. I've learned that my confidence in what I am shooting trumps my meticulously analyzed load and gun performance virtually every time when it comes to hunting and hitting animals.


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whiie not nosler or accubond, Speer lists CFE 223 loads for their bullets in the 35 whelen in their latest manual.

for the speer 220 the range is 61 to 67 grains
for the speer 250 the range is 57.9 to 61.4 grains

perhaps this may be of some use to you


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Originally Posted by metricman
whiie not nosler or accubond, Speer lists CFE 223 loads for their bullets in the 35 whelen in their latest manual.
for the speer 220 the range is 61 to 67 grains
for the speer 250 the range is 57.9 to 61.4 grains


That is not what they currently post online.

https://reloading-data.speer-ammo.c...35_caliber_357-358_dia/35_Whelen_250.pdf

For the 250 gr pill it's 57.9 and 64.1 grains. Maybe you have "sex daily", uh, I mean dyslexia? grin

I'm at 64.0 gr of CFE-223 + Nosler 250 PT now. Need to run that one over the chrono.

I tried CFE-223 with the 200 TTSX. IMO it's burn rate is too slow. I'd recco IMR-3031, 4895, TAC or IMR-8208.

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you are correct!
my apologies for perhaps being misleading.


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My 7600 pump likes the 200 TTSX with CFE 223

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Group looks like Fotis, but 2,690 fps is rather pedestrian.

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I did some work with Power Pro Varmint with the 200TTSX in my 35 Whelen AI and it was most impressive - pushing 3000 fps. Perhaps it'll work with the 200 AB as well.
I bought a bunch of the same 200AB seconds as you from SPS but mostly figured to try them in the .358 Win, since I am "there" in the Whelen with the 200TTSX and Varmint. I posted my work on another site, let's see if I can find the link.
200 TTSX and Varmint
If you scroll back from the linked post you can read about the initial interpolations to derive the data and tests with 200 grain round nose to baseline the charges.

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Originally Posted by MuskegMan

Group looks like Fotis, but 2,690 fps is rather pedestrian.



You think I should increase charge to 65 or so?


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Thanks for the responses. I tried a load ladder with H335, which I had loaded around the time I posted this as H335 was listed by Nosler in their data and I had a random pound. Accuracy was best at max charge, but around 1.5 MOA at best.

Certainly “good enough” for most hunting, but I’m going to try another powder or two just because smile

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Originally Posted by Tannhauser
Thanks for the responses. I tried a load ladder with H335, which I had loaded around the time I posted this as H335 was listed by Nosler in their data and I had a random pound. Accuracy was best at max charge, but around 1.5 MOA at best.

Certainly “good enough” for most hunting, but I’m going to try another powder or two just because smile


Did you use a magnum primer?

I've shot a good bit of Milsurplus H335 and BLc-2. On average, BLC-2's turned in the better groups for me.

Just another option to consider:

Code
Cartridge          : .35 Whelen
Bullet             : .358, 200, Nosler AccuBond 54425
Useable Case Capaci: 61.701 grain H2O = 4.006 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon BL-C2

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.794% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-07.9   93    58.00   2660    3142   44227   7230     96.2    1.212
-07.1   94    58.50   2683    3198   45487   7288     96.5    1.197
-06.4   95    59.00   2707    3254   46786   7344     96.8    1.182
-05.6   96    59.50   2730    3310   48131   7399     97.1    1.167
-04.8   97    60.00   2754    3367   49513   7451     97.4    1.153  ! Near Maximum !
-04.0   97    60.50   2777    3425   50934   7502     97.7    1.139  ! Near Maximum !
-03.2   98    61.00   2800    3482   52396   7551     97.9    1.125  ! Near Maximum !
-02.4   99    61.50   2824    3541   53900   7598     98.2    1.112  ! Near Maximum !
-01.6  100    62.00   2847    3599   55452   7643     98.4    1.098  ! Near Maximum !
-00.8  101    62.50   2870    3659   57053   7686     98.6    1.085  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  101    63.00   2894    3718   58706   7727     98.8    1.072  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.8  102    63.50   2917    3778   60412   7765     99.0    1.059  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.6  103    64.00   2940    3839   62174   7802     99.1    1.046  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.4  104    64.50   2963    3900   63994   7836     99.3    1.034  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.2  105    65.00   2987    3961   65875   7868     99.4    1.021  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  106    65.50   3010    4023   67819   7898     99.6    1.009  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 3% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 3% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    101    63.00   2938    3834   62483   7685     99.6    1.046  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 3% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    101    63.00   2844    3593   54967   7729     97.6    1.100  ! Near Maximum !


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Tannhauser
Thanks for the responses. I tried a load ladder with H335, which I had loaded around the time I posted this as H335 was listed by Nosler in their data and I had a random pound. Accuracy was best at max charge, but around 1.5 MOA at best.

Certainly “good enough” for most hunting, but I’m going to try another powder or two just because smile


Did you use a magnum primer?

I've shot a good bit of Milsurplus H335 and BLc-2. On average, BLC-2's turned in the better groups for me.

Just another option to consider..


I used a standard primer, Fed 210

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