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I've had my SD for almost 6 years and never checked the spare. its one of those things i always said i need to do but always forgot. well i got my first flat the other day and went to use the spare. luckily i was in my driveway. apparently Ford thinks these spares are worth locking up. they have a "key" which is like a socket with a soda machine key on the end. its supposed to be in the glove box. well mine wasn't and i am 99% sure never was because i would have seen something like that for sure. theres a little jar of touchup paint and a manual for every other friggen thing in there but no key for the spare. so i call ford and they said they need the VIN and $107 for this f ucken thing they didn't give me with my $40k truck. i argued with them and they agreed to give it to me for cost, which was $56 bucks. about $51 more than its worth. so i get the thing and am able to crank the spare down and live happily ever after. but, if you have a Ford truck, you ougtta check it out before you really need it.


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Actually. . . . The parties at fault for your
dellema are
Your salesman
and the make ready department
In that order
The make ready department checks every vehicle
received at that dealer for anything damaged or
missing, and is supposed to make a claim for
anything found out of order. Having and using a
detailed and complex checklist for new stock units
is pretty much standard for any dealership of any
make of car. If something is wrong or missing,
they screwed up.
But the bottom line is that your salesman is the
one person responsible for your satisfaction with
whatever you bought. They're supposed to spend a
good deal of time with you going over every aspect
of your newly purchased vehicle, and answering any
question you may have
I know. I know. . . in today's world , they sold you a
car and got their commission and they could care
less about you now

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ya i agree. he did spend some time with me but the truck came from another dealer out of state so who knows where the problem was. this dealership is actually pretty good as dealerships go. if it hadn't been almost 6 years since i bought it, i may have pitched more of a bitch to get a freebie. but i needed a friggen key. they always send a survey and that will be duly noted. not that they probably even give half a schit. they make serious money from several brands.


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I went through this same ordeal. I bought my truck to the Dublin GA Ford dealer and the parts guy went out to the truck with a box that had 12 different socket keys in it. He figured out which one I had and ordered the key socket and a week later it was in. Cost was only $21.00, your dealer is screwing you.


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A bad survey can mean your job
That's why most dealers have those
little gals with the sweet voices to
call you and make sure you're satisfied
before you send in your survey.

Unfortunately these days most dealers
are owned by investment groups and
not some individual that's been in the
car business for decades

The kind of people I started working for
at the Ford new car dealerships I started
working at had all been in the business
for several decades and knew what they
were talking about and genuinely cared
about their customers and cultivated
repeat business in all departments.
Nowadays, their concerns are making
the sale and selling financing and add ons
and nothing else
If a salesman that waited on you is still
working there when you come back, it'll
be a small miracle. It'll probably be a
small miracle if there's not a "UNDER NEW
MANAGEMENT/OWNERSHIP " banner
hanging out front

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A can of Fix-A-Flat and a plug kit would have saved you a lot of aggravation.


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Same thing happened to me, 2015 F250 and I was out hunting. Turned into a 2 day [bleep] show

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I had a flat on my 2006 and if not for the manual I would not have figured out what was wrong... Mine was in the glovebox and luckily other than that experience I have not needed it since...


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I’ve changed flats three times out in the brush on my F250 diesels through the years. Never had an issue with the wheel lock. The potential problem is the jack. I carry a 4’ Hi-Lift and a 3’ long 2”x12” to provide a solid support base for the jack. For anyone going off pavement, carry the Hi-Lift and the 2”x12” for support.
Since changing to Hankooks, no flats have occurred. Thanks to Sam Olson for the recommendation on the Hankooks. 👍

https://hi-lift.com/hi-lift-jacks/

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Originally Posted by jeffbird
I’ve changed flats three times out in the brush on my F250 diesels through the years. Never had an issue with the wheel lock. The potential problem is the jack. I carry a 4’ Hi-Lift and a 3’ long 2”x12” to provide a solid support base for the jack. For anyone going off pavement, carry the Hi-Lift and the 2”x12” for support.
Since changing to Hankooks, no flats have occurred. Thanks to Sam Olson for the recommendation on the Hankooks. 👍

https://hi-lift.com/hi-lift-jacks/

Where do you hook a Hilift on the front of a pickup under 30 years old.
Bullrack or stepbars? Maybe. Certainly not on any OEM metal.

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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Originally Posted by jeffbird
I’ve changed flats three times out in the brush on my F250 diesels through the years. Never had an issue with the wheel lock. The potential problem is the jack. I carry a 4’ Hi-Lift and a 3’ long 2”x12” to provide a solid support base for the jack. For anyone going off pavement, carry the Hi-Lift and the 2”x12” for support.
Since changing to Hankooks, no flats have occurred. Thanks to Sam Olson for the recommendation on the Hankooks. 👍

https://hi-lift.com/hi-lift-jacks/

Where do you hook a Hilift on the front of a pickup under 30 years old.
Bullrack or stepbars? Maybe. Certainly not on any OEM metal.


Bumper on the rear and tow hook on the front. All OEM on my trucks.

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Originally Posted by rem141r
I've had my SD for almost 6 years and never checked the spare.
And you're blaming Ford? Geez...........


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Some of you need to remember the Boy Scout motto!

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Originally Posted by stevelyn
A can of Fix-A-Flat and a plug kit would have saved you a lot of aggravation.


i had that but did not use it because it was in the driveway. i just pulled it and took it to the tire place with my lesbo-mobile. but if i had been out in the woods, i'd gunked the schit out of that thing and fired up my little compressor and sat there for an hour waiting for it to fill.


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Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by rem141r
I've had my SD for almost 6 years and never checked the spare.
And you're blaming Ford? Geez...........


i knew there would be one of ya. smile

ya i know and readily admit it. but the fact of the matter is there was no friggen key from the get-go. i posted this as a PSA. seems like i'm not the only one who had the issue.

and yes, i was a boy scout..


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The wheel locks are shipped in the same bag as the remote and spare keys.

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All my vehicles have fix-flat, plugs, and a decent compressor. On rough mountain paths, one spare isn't enough.

My 2018 F150 requires my ignition key to unlock the spare.

Must have been a few complaints.

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Originally Posted by stevelyn
A can of Fix-A-Flat and a plug kit would have saved you a lot of aggravation.


i had that but did not use it because it was in the driveway. i just pulled it and took it to the tire place with my lesbo-mobile. but if i had been out in the woods, i'd gunked the schit out of that thing and fired up my little compressor and sat there for an hour waiting for it to fill.



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Originally Posted by rem141r
I've had my SD for almost 6 years and never checked the spare. its one of those things i always said i need to do but always forgot. well i got my first flat the other day and went to use the spare. luckily i was in my driveway. apparently Ford thinks these spares are worth locking up. they have a "key" which is like a socket with a soda machine key on the end. its supposed to be in the glove box. well mine wasn't and i am 99% sure never was because i would have seen something like that for sure. theres a little jar of touchup paint and a manual for every other friggen thing in there but no key for the spare. so i call ford and they said they need the VIN and $107 for this f ucken thing they didn't give me with my $40k truck. i argued with them and they agreed to give it to me for cost, which was $56 bucks. about $51 more than its worth. so i get the thing and am able to crank the spare down and live happily ever after. but, if you have a Ford truck, you ougtta check it out before you really need it.


You have had a vehicle for 6 years and never checked the spare. That is hard for me to comprehend.
Too bad you weren't in Boy Scouts.
The motto is "Be Prepared."

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2015. mine has a hole in the bumper and that you put the jack rod into with the key on the end. why theres a lock is beyond me. should just lower with the notch thing on the end of the jack rod. i also have a compressor, 4way and even a floor jack in the bed. i am buying a junkyard wheel today and putting an old tire on it and keeping it in the bed. two is one, one is none.

reminds me, i need to throw a cheater pipe in there too. those friggen air tools crank those bolts down to tight.

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Originally Posted by stevelyn
A can of Fix-A-Flat and a plug kit would have saved you a lot of aggravation.


A lot of vehicle manufacturers aren't including even the little temporary spares and jacks anymore in new vehicles as they are an extra cost option now. Instead they come with a small compressor and liquid tire sealant.






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