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I am contemplating reloading and donating ammunition for this organization.
I'm not sure if I'm going to forget to add powder or add a full charge of black powder. Do y'all have any suggestions?
Of course my donations will be anonymous. I'm just that kind of guy.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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I'd rather donate bullets first.
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A case full of bullseye would be more exciting than black powder.
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Do y'all have any suggestions? Yep, either load it to blow the gun up or load it to stick the bullet in the barrel. For the first, a compressed load of red dot under the heaviest bullet you can find should be interesting. For the second, it takes powder, question is how much. 1-2 grains might be about right.
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A case full of bullseye would be more exciting than black powder. This. Well, bullseye can be a little bulky, load them some .223 wiht 19gr of Shooters World clean shot behind a 77gr SMK. That will produce over 350,000 PSI. Just be sure to post the video when they touch on off.
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A case full of bullseye would be more exciting than black powder. This. Well, bullseye can be a little bulky, load them some .223 wiht 19gr of Shooters World clean shot behind a 77gr SMK. That will produce over 350,000 PSI. Just be sure to post the video when they touch on off. About 30 grains of Titegroup will do the trick also.
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I'm thinking a small grain ball powder because you can get more in the case. A triple load in 9mm brass would be a great donation too.
The Karma bus always has an empty seat when it comes around.- High Brass
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Fill a .223 case with a compressed load of H335. Ditto for 9MM or .40 S&W. One round of either will turn the chamber into shrapnel.
Ignorance can be fixed. Stupid is forever!
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Fill a .223 case with a compressed load of H335. Ditto for 9MM or .40 S&W. One round of either will turn the chamber into shrapnel. H335 was made for the 5.56. As for H335 in a .40 S&W, you can't get enough in the case to ever make it dangerous:
Cartridge : .40 S&W (SAAMI)
Bullet : .400, 180, Sierra JHP FN 8460
Useable Case Capaci: 10.240 grain H2O = 0.665 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.135 inch = 28.83 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H335
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 3.334% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-33.3 97 10.00 688 189 7366 193 22.0 3.633
-30.0 102 10.50 720 207 8320 211 22.9 3.464
-26.7 107 11.00 753 226 9464 230 24.0 3.301
-23.3 112 11.50 788 248 10853 251 25.1 3.142
-20.0 116 12.00 824 271 12567 273 26.3 2.988
-16.7 121 12.50 863 298 14725 295 27.5 2.837
-13.3 126 13.00 904 327 17506 320 28.9 2.689
-10.0 131 13.50 949 360 21211 345 30.4 2.541
-06.7 136 14.00 997 398 26364 372 32.0 2.394
-03.3 141 14.50 1051 442 33981 400 33.8 2.244 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 146 15.00 1113 495 46354 430 36.0 2.090 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.3 150 15.50 1187 564 69790 460 38.5 1.925 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.7 155 16.00 1288 663 130957 491 42.1 1.734 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 160 16.50 cannot find match, try to lower shot start pressure
+13.3 165 17.00 cannot find match, try to lower shot start pressure
+16.7 170 17.50 cannot find match, try to lower shot start pressure
Results caused by ± 3% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 3% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 146 15.00 1147 526 49013 459 38.3 2.028 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 3% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 146 15.00 1079 465 43777 402 33.7 2.155 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
You'll never make it to the required 140% compression.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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We loaded black powder in .45acp and got velocities in the 550fps range,never could get one to cycle and it was great fun cleaning up. But every one of them went bang so that might be handy info.
Bangflop! another skinning job due to .260 and proper shot placement.
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Satan's mother?, so all the others in the mag go off at the same time
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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A little "Project Eldest Son"....hhhmmmmmmm.
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