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Originally Posted by VaHunter
A friend moved to the Western Virginia area from Minnesota. He asked some of us shortly after getting here how much snow we got and we told him it varied year to year between 10"/year to 60"/year. We mentioned that sleet, freezing rain and wet heavy snow was more common here and it was very hard to drive in going up and down the hills and mountains in the area. He of course said since he was from Minnesota he knew all about driving in it and it would be no problem for him.

First morning of the first snow of the year I found him in the ditch at the first downhill slope he came to out of our little neighborhood and of course I stopped and took him home. He was amazed at how slick it was and of course he had never been up a hill or down a hill steep hills in Minnesota.

I have been to Minnesota in the winter and that super cold dry snow is much easier to drive.


Much like the rest of the country, when we get that super-slick freezing-rain wet-ice road conditions, we get dozens upon dozens of cars that pile into each-other as well.

Really, our biggest hazard out on the highway is wind/poor-to-no visibility, much moreso than "slick". I have a full set of 4 tire-chains for my pickup but I can only think of 1 fried who also has chains, everyone else says they don't need them, which is true, until it's not.........

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Goodyear Duratracs.


Good on 1/2tn, not good on 3/4-1tn.



not true....get the appropriate rated ….ply....tire and you are good......I drive a lot of ice and snow...….bob


I had Load E Duratracs on my '06 F250 diesel. They sucked, way squishy on the sidewalls from 65PSI up to 80PSI.



i have them on my 16 f350.....will buy again......the nittos sucked for me.......bob

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I liked the Nitto Exo Grapplers better on ice than any other non-studded tire I've run. I switched back to studded tires mid winter this year, because the Nittos had done such a good job up till then.

That said, on ice, nothing beats studs, and having two sets of tires is the way to go (although I will certainly admit that it can be a PITA).

Usain Bolt can't run fast enough to give me a set of Duratracks. I suspect the same applies to anybody that rode in my truck while it was wearing them, but to each his own.

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Originally Posted by cwh2
I liked the Nitto Exo Grapplers better on ice than any other non-studded tire I've run. I switched back to studded tires mid winter this year, because the Nittos had done such a good job up till then.

That said, on ice, nothing beats studs, and having two sets of tires is the way to go (although I will certainly admit that it can be a PITA).

Usain Bolt can't run fast enough to give me a set of Duratracks. I suspect the same applies to anybody that rode in my truck while it was wearing them, but to each his own.
I've looked for a used set of 17" wheels for my pickup and haven't found any that cost much under $1000. I can pay for a lot of tire swapping for that money.


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Continental ContiTrac. Has a lot of sipes.


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I liked the Nitto Exo Grapplers better on ice than any other non-studded tire I've run. I switched back to studded tires mid winter this year, because the Nittos had done such a good job up till then.

That said, on ice, nothing beats studs, and having two sets of tires is the way to go (although I will certainly admit that it can be a PITA).

Usain Bolt can't run fast enough to give me a set of Duratracks. I suspect the same applies to anybody that rode in my truck while it was wearing them, but to each his own.
I've looked for a used set of 17" wheels for my pickup and haven't found any that cost much under $1000. I can pay for a lot of tire swapping for that money.


Here's a set for $500/free shipping.

17" Ram Wheels


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Just remember that you can drive as fast as you want on snow and ice.....












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Thanks for all the input. I know dedicated winter tires are best. This is a working 1/2 ton, and what goes on needs to handle the 35 mile highway trip to the farm, some gravel county roads (which tear up soft winter tires pretty fast), normal off raod farm work, and I just want, in the AT load range E class a tire that isn't the slickest ice skate on the road when winter hits.

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I had good results with Firestone Destination AT tires. I think they have been updated since though. If I didn't have to plow through deep snow to get to the highway I would have kept using them. Another I like is the Kelly Safari TSR, especially when studded.

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Originally Posted by horse1
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Goodyear Duratracs.


Good on 1/2tn, not good on 3/4-1tn.
or 1 tons

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Getting tired of posting this. Toyo M-55.


They SUCK on ice/packed snow.


Only if your a neophyte that doesn't inflate/deflate properly given road/hauling conditions.

There is no better AT tire for ice conditions.

Excuse me, yes there is a Spiked/Chained Toyo M-55


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Thanks everyone. I'm going to use the suggestions from everyone for a list to research. I will probably be "retiring" this old pickup before winter.

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Originally Posted by FatCity67
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Getting tired of posting this. Toyo M-55.


They SUCK on ice/packed snow.


Only if your a neophyte that doesn't inflate/deflate properly given road/hauling conditions.

There is no better AT tire for ice conditions.

Excuse me, yes there is a Spiked/Chained Toyo M-55


Do you have a suggested inflation level for various conditions. I always wanted to try them on my 1 Ton because I have read people like them for deep snow.

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Originally Posted by wytex
Goodyear Duratracs.

Only works on black ice.


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Originally Posted by 300_savage
I've had mixed success with ice traction on my half ton pickups using AT tires. My current tires on two pickups are Hankook Dynapro ATMs, and they're not bad. Friend of mine swears by his Cooper AT3 4S, but another friends had a set of the original Cooper AT3 and said they were horrible. So, for those of you in the northern climates, what do you think is the best AT light truck tires for winter conditions, ice traction a priority, mostly on pavement but some off-road as well?


I run the DynaPros during the other three seasons.. but for winter, I switch over to the Hankook I Pike RW 11... with Studs...

the rubber is Hydrophilic, getting soft when they get wet...

our winters are wet in Oregon.. but travel up road over the Cascades and in Oregon east of the Cascades.. you see a lot of Snow and Ice, up and over the passes especially...

Nothing does that good on ice...and with the price of vehicles, why go cheap on good winter tires...

I order mine thru Discount Tire Direct...the vehicle I am running these on is a Honda Pilot... 2 WD,

DynoPro RW10s, work pretty well if you have 4 WD....

I run those also on my old 4 Runner.. but now that Oregon is putting salt on the roads over the mountains... I don't drive it much at all in winter times...

I'm also getting a lot of long mileage out of both the RW 10s and the RW 11 I Pike Snows..


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Originally Posted by thumbcocker
Bridgestone Blizzaks. Hands down.


That probably is the best choice since they were actually made for it.

I have a hard time believing the 19 year old kids at tire shops that recommend the "best" tires. But, at Discount Tire they recommended I get the Pathfinder AT's for my F-150 because I have been more than unsatisfied with BFG's traction on wet pavement, ice, and pretty much anything else. I'll be dipped if he wasn't right. They're great.

So Blizzaks or Pathfinder AT's.


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Originally Posted by cwh2
I liked the Nitto Exo Grapplers better on ice than any other non-studded tire I've run. I switched back to studded tires mid winter this year, because the Nittos had done such a good job up till then.

That said, on ice, nothing beats studs, and having two sets of tires is the way to go (although I will certainly admit that it can be a PITA).

Usain Bolt can't run fast enough to give me a set of Duratracks. I suspect the same applies to anybody that rode in my truck while it was wearing them, but to each his own.


+1 on studs and the Duratracks

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Bridgestone Blizzaks. Hands down.


That probably is the best choice since they were actually made for it.

I have a hard time believing the 19 year old kids at tire shops that recommend the "best" tires. But, at Discount Tire they recommended I get the Pathfinder AT's for my F-150 because I have been more than unsatisfied with BFG's traction on wet pavement, ice, and pretty much anything else. I'll be dipped if he wasn't right. They're great.

So Blizzaks or Pathfinder AT's.


If I remember correctly, the Pathfinder is a rebranded Hankook DynaPro ATM.


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If anybody mentioned siping I missed it.

Siping is/are the small slits, looking like cuts in each lug. It is my understanding that the more siping a tire has the better on ice. Of course there are trade offs. A heavily siped tire wants to wallow on dry pavement & doesn't handle the best.

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