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Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
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Pointing a firearm at people not attacking you is not covered in any "stand your ground" law.



Pointing a firearm at people criminals, who have destroyed private property (DESTROYED GATE) to GAIN access to PRIVATE PROPERTY(GATED COMMUNITY) not IS attacking you AND "IS" not covered in any "stand your ground" law.

The group, BLM, have already established a precedent proving out they are criminals from the murders and property destruction they have caused.

With that hard fact established, any citizen in that gated community had a right to brandish arms against a criminal gang once they destroyed property to gain access and stepped across the boundary line of the broken gate, because they would legally be within their right to claim in fear of their life, based on the precedent established and present destruction of property at their doorstep, destroyed gate.

The D.A. doesn't have squat.


How many of that violent, criminal, trespassing mob were arrested? How many of these violent felons that violated the property and safety of that community are now facing charges?

None of you get it. The facts don't matter. There is no law and order, because those who control the narrative control the "facts". According to their narrative, those were protesters, and the couple committed a crime. The DA agrees. So who is right and who is wrong, here? Use your fuucking brains, numbskulls.


You are clueless. If by chance the DA got a guilty verdict, it would be thrown out on appeal, and if they didn't, the USSC would.



Answer my question. How many of this violent mob of trespassers is facing charges?

You don't get it. I am not saying that what that couple did was wrong. I am saying that the system of "law" that you all want to seem to uphold is utterly broken. I am simply pointing it out. At the beginning of this thread, I MF'd all those people who support "law abiding" but aren't willing to call this what it is, according to the law. Look at it. The DA is investigating who? The criminals? NO. I didn't invent this BS system of government being the victim of a crime, and I don't subscribe to it. But you all do. And then you all want to bitch when it doesn't go your way, because the subversive media in cooperation with government is steering the narrative. FACTS DON'T MATTER. What matters is what the media tells you, because you keep watching the media.

Call me clueless all you want. It's a compliment coming from the scant intellect you've shown here.


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Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Pointing a firearm at people not attacking you is not covered in any "stand your ground" law.



Pointing a firearm at people criminals, who have destroyed private property (DESTROYED GATE) to GAIN access to PRIVATE PROPERTY(GATED COMMUNITY) not IS attacking you AND "IS" not covered in any "stand your ground" law.

The group, BLM, have already established a precedent proving out they are criminals from the murders and property destruction they have caused.

With that hard fact established, any citizen in that gated community had a right to brandish arms against a criminal gang once they destroyed property to gain access and stepped across the boundary line of the broken gate, because they would legally be within their right to claim in fear of their life, based on the precedent established and present destruction of property at their doorstep, destroyed gate.

The D.A. doesn't have squat.


How many of that violent, criminal, trespassing mob were arrested? How many of these violent felons that violated the property and safety of that community are now facing charges?

None of you get it. The facts don't matter. There is no law and order, because those who control the narrative control the "facts". According to their narrative, those were protesters, and the couple committed a crime. The DA agrees. So who is right and who is wrong, here? Use your fuucking brains, numbskulls.


You are clueless. If by chance the DA got a guilty verdict, it would be thrown out on appeal, and if they didn't, the USSC would.



Answer my question. How many of this violent mob of trespassers is facing charges?

You don't get it. I am not saying that what that couple did was wrong. I am saying that the system of "law" that you all want to seem to uphold is utterly broken. I am simply pointing it out. At the beginning of this thread, I MF'd all those people who support "law abiding" but aren't willing to call this what it is, according to the law. Look at it. The DA is investigating who? The criminals? NO. I didn't invent this BS system of government being the victim of a crime, and I don't subscribe to it. But you all do. And then you all want to bitch when it doesn't go your way, because the subversive media in cooperation with government is steering the narrative. FACTS DON'T MATTER. What matters is what the media tells you, because you keep watching the media.

Call me clueless all you want. It's a compliment coming from the scant intellect you've shown here.



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Originally Posted by cisco1
The McCloskeys broke the law , not by brandishing , but by pointing the weapons at the mob.

Wrong, they had every right to point guns at the mob criminals..

The "mob" were criminals in the act of committing property damage (destroyed security gate), and any citizen in that community had a right to point at, AND SHOOT, said mob members(criminals) to cease further property damage and stop the threat.


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Elkslayer ,

You are too stupid to have a cap pistol.

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Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
Originally Posted by cisco1
The McCloskeys broke the law , not by brandishing , but by pointing the weapons at the mob.

Wrong, they had every right to point guns at the mob criminals..

The "mob" were criminals in the act of committing property damage (destroyed security gate), and any citizen in that community had a right to point at, AND SHOOT, said mob members(criminals) to cease further property damage and stop the threat.

Again, how many of these criminals was apprehended? How many are facing charges? If you imagine this is about St Louis, or about Missouri, you are again wrong. There is a reason why it is all over media everywhere.


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Originally Posted by cisco1

Elkslayer ,

You are too stupid to have a cap pistol.

And that is why I have a cap and ball pistol........so I can stop the stupid.


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Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
Originally Posted by cisco1
The McCloskeys broke the law , not by brandishing , but by pointing the weapons at the mob.

Wrong, they had every right to point guns at the mob criminals..

The "mob" were criminals in the act of committing property damage (destroyed security gate), and any citizen in that community had a right to point at, AND SHOOT, said mob members(criminals) to cease further property damage and stop the threat.

Again, how many of these criminals was apprehended? How many are facing charges? If you imagine this is about St Louis, or about Missouri, you are again wrong. There is a reason why it is all over media everywhere.

When you get your azz handed to you, you switch the narrative.

First it was all about the citizens were breaking the law....and you lost that argument.

Now you want to talk about how many criminals were arrested, which this thread is not about. Stay on topic.


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Originally Posted by cisco1
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You don't have to agree. However you are as stupid as the McCloskeys if you cannot understand what is happening in this country.

You clearly do not know the law .

Every gun owner / concealed carry person should know enough to understand the possible laws that can get you in trouble , especially in Dem. cities with

overzealous prosecuters.

The McCloskeys broke the law , not by brandishing , but by pointing the weapons at the mob.




No, it is you that does not know the law. LIKE I SAID, I did not see them point their weapons at anyone.

Second, Merely openly posessing a firearm on your own private property IN THE FACE OF GREAT BODILY HARM OR DEATH is not brandishing. You're the one who needs to study up. And, just because the D.A. is some high and mighty lefty bleeder biytch, that does not change the law.

Personally, I don't care for the McCloskeys. But, that does not change the law, either.


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Originally Posted by local_dirt
Second, Merely openly posessing a firearm on your own private property IN THE FACE OF GREAT BODILY HARM OR DEATH is not brandishing.

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Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
[Pointing a firearm at people not attacking you is not covered in any "stand your ground" law.


Wrong.


Just to throw out some actual law...
This is Montana law. I can’t speak to Missoura

45-3-111. Openly carrying weapon -- display -- exemption. (1) Any person who is not otherwise prohibited from doing so by federal or state law may openly carry a weapon and may communicate to another person the fact that the person has a weapon.
(2) If a person reasonably believes that the person or another person is threatened with bodily harm, the person may warn or threaten the use of force, including deadly force, against the aggressor, including drawing or presenting a weapon.
(3) This section does not limit the authority of the board of regents or other postsecondary institutions to regulate the carrying of weapons, as defined in 45-8-361(5)(b), on their campuses.

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Originally Posted by KRAKMT
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
[Pointing a firearm at people not attacking you is not covered in any "stand your ground" law.


Wrong.


Just to throw out some actual law...
This is Montana law. I can’t speak to Missoura

45-3-111. Openly carrying weapon -- display -- exemption. (1) Any person who is not otherwise prohibited from doing so by federal or state law may openly carry a weapon and may communicate to another person the fact that the person has a weapon.
(2) If a person reasonably believes that the person or another person is threatened with bodily harm, the person may warn or threaten the use of force, including deadly force, against the aggressor, including drawing or presenting a weapon.
(3) This section does not limit the authority of the board of regents or other postsecondary institutions to regulate the carrying of weapons, as defined in 45-8-361(5)(b), on their campuses.

i like the wording of that


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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
I think what they were really lacking is practice and preparation. Exactly what they would do in that scenario. Not actually sweeping any of the vandals with the muzzle of a weapon would be a start, footwear would have been a plus also.

As it was, I believe that couple protected all the houses in that neighborhood, seeing that would make the vandals think twice.


They were untrained civilians doing what they thought was reasonable to protect their lives and property under the legal guidance of the 2nd Amendment. These points make their case even stronger in my opinion. Nothing is going to stop an over reaction by a local prosecutor except a judge with his or her head screwed on straight.

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Originally Posted by kwg020
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
I think what they were really lacking is practice and preparation. Exactly what they would do in that scenario. Not actually sweeping any of the vandals with the muzzle of a weapon would be a start, footwear would have been a plus also.

As it was, I believe that couple protected all the houses in that neighborhood, seeing that would make the vandals think twice.


They were untrained civilians doing what they thought was reasonable to protect their lives and property under the legal guidance of the 2nd Amendment. These points make their case even stronger in my opinion. Nothing is going to stop an over reaction by a local prosecutor except a judge with his or her head screwed on straight.

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Originally Posted by Hastings
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The McCloskeys can go Phugg themselves. They’ve made a fortune by going after decent folk and defending in court the very criminals they were pointing their guns at. A pair of liberal Democrat D-bags that are now feeling the pay back from the very system they want to shove down everyone else’s throat. Had this been you on your lawn instead of them, they’d be the ones filing law suits against you on behalf of the mob. Phugg em a hundred times over...
Rather harsh assessment of the McCloskeys unless you know more than the news reported. Personal injury lawyers are a necessary evil. If not for injury lawyers coal mines and offshore oil companies would be extremely dangerous work places. Drunk drivers could kill and maim. Insurance companies could refuse to pay. Innocent people could be thrown in prison. Lawyers do a lot of good.


I heard it from his own mouth in his own words during his many interviews since the incident. Self proclaimed Proud BLM supporter serving the very people protesting against the “systemic injustice“ for years and years. You still think that’s a “harsh assessment“ then that’s your opinion but I’m keeping mine...

Oh and big time democrat supporter and contributors as per someone else. Can’t verify it as I did t see that for myself but I sure as hell don't doubt it in the least.

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Originally Posted by Dryfly24
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Originally Posted by Dryfly24
The McCloskeys can go Phugg themselves. They’ve made a fortune by going after decent folk and defending in court the very criminals they were pointing their guns at. A pair of liberal Democrat D-bags that are now feeling the pay back from the very system they want to shove down everyone else’s throat. Had this been you on your lawn instead of them, they’d be the ones filing law suits against you on behalf of the mob. Phugg em a hundred times over...
Rather harsh assessment of the McCloskeys unless you know more than the news reported. Personal injury lawyers are a necessary evil. If not for injury lawyers coal mines and offshore oil companies would be extremely dangerous work places. Drunk drivers could kill and maim. Insurance companies could refuse to pay. Innocent people could be thrown in prison. Lawyers do a lot of good.
I heard it from his own mouth in his own words during his many interviews since the incident. Self proclaimed Proud BLM supporter serving the very people protesting against the systemic injustice for years and years. You still think that’s a “harsh assessment“ then that’s your opinion but I’m keeping mine...
I admit I didn't hear his comments. Seems like he would know not to be making statements to the press or anyone else if involved in a legal controversy. He is a lawyer and should know better.


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BLM is a money laundering operation. They become active close to the Presidential Election and funnel almost ALL of their contributions to the dimrat party Presidential candidates. They bypass campaign finance laws.

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