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I like Talley bases and split rings, but use Burris Signature Zee rings on 99’s. Either work well.

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Once I start swapping scopes on my TC Icons I begin to appreciate the horizontal splits more......transitioned from talleys to warne maxima for that reason.

Talley verticals are good rings but I have to mess with stuff.

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I used multiples of horizontal and vertical split rings. Never had a problem out of any of them as long as I didn't use a cheater bar to tighten them up.


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I use both and don't think there is much functional difference. I find the horizontals a bit easier to mount scopes on but the difference is not large.

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Never found the allure of vertical rings. I've only tried one set of Warnes - I'm one-n-done with the "concept".

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Originally Posted by dale06

On moderate recoil rifles 243 and smaller, are there any big advantages or disadvantages between vertical and horizontal split scope rings?
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The only vertically split ring I would use are the ARC rings, and they are not a true vertically split ring, more of a hybrid. They are absolutely outstanding and I prefer them over all other rings I’ve tried.

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Originally Posted by JGRaider
I used multiples of horizontal and vertical split rings. Never had a problem out of any of them as long as I didn't use a cheater bar to tighten them up.


Same here.


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Originally Posted by Hondo64d

The only vertically split ring I would use are the ARC rings, and they are not a true vertically split ring, more of a hybrid. They are absolutely outstanding and I prefer them over all other rings I’ve tried.


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Vertical split rings suck plain a and simple


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Originally Posted by MuskegMan

Originally Posted by Hondo64d

The only vertically split ring I would use are the ARC rings, and they are not a true vertically split ring, more of a hybrid. They are absolutely outstanding and I prefer them over all other rings I’ve tried.


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Yep. And they are a bargain at that.

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Originally Posted by MuskegMan

Originally Posted by Hondo64d

The only vertically split ring I would use are the ARC rings, and they are not a true vertically split ring, more of a hybrid. They are absolutely outstanding and I prefer them over all other rings I’ve tried.


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Originally Posted by Hondo64d
The only vertically split ring I would use are the ARC rings, and they are not a true vertically split ring, more of a hybrid. They are absolutely outstanding and I prefer them over all other rings I’ve tried.

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What makes the ARC rings so good? To me, those two hinges just look like extra complication?

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I have a bunch of Warne vertical's, and never a problem.....



YUP...No twisting of scope during installation


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Vertical split ring (2) screws tighten on the tube and the Weaver base at the same time.... not a good design.

On top the bad concept, they are usually made so the screws bind on the side of their clearance holes... more bad design.

Me trying to use v split rings reminds me of Donald Duck changing a flat tire.

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Me trying to use v split rings reminds me of Donald Duck changing a flat tire.

https://video.disney.com/watch/donald-s-tire-trouble-4bb39f2cdff29a8833003b15[/quote]

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I like Talleys and Warne Maxima vertical split rings on my higher-end rifles. I'm not a turret spinner and don't change scopes, and I like the looks on a fine rifle.

PS: I have 2 sets of gloss Conetrol 1" rings in my shop, if anyone is interested.

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Originally Posted by Fotis
Originally Posted by huntsman22
I have a bunch of Warne vertical's, and never a problem.....



YUP...No twisting of scope during installation


Agreed. That's the biggest pain about using horizontal. I've had a bunch of God damnit moments. Square your reticle, start tightening, and look again and the reticle is canted.

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Originally Posted by Clarkm
Vertical split ring (2) screws tighten on the tube and the Weaver base at the same time.... not a good design.


Agreed. I don't like that design either. I like Warnes and Talley QDs that mount around the tube first, then mount to the rail.

Warne top, Talley bottom. Both QD, but the Talley is using the screw lock option instead of the lever.
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As far verticals obstructing the turret, I don't see it. They aren't that tall. They aren't really any taller than the ocular bell or power ring.

I also prefer Warnes to Talleys if my rifle has open sights I might want to use. Their bases are lower.

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Originally Posted by shinbone
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The only vertically split ring I would use are the ARC rings, and they are not a true vertically split ring, more of a hybrid. They are absolutely outstanding and I prefer them over all other rings I’ve tried.

John

https://www.americanrifle.com/shop/product/m10-scope-rings-7


What makes the ARC rings so good? To me, those two hinges just look like extra complication?


They align well, making for no stress on the scope tube.
They have plenty of surface area for a secure hold.
The reticle does not change angle as you tighten the top bolt. This is huge to me. Saves me from much frustration.
They are precise and repeatable. I have removed and reinstalled my scope on its base with virtually no change in POI.
They don’t appear to have any of the negatives of the vertically split rings that are split all the way through, which makes them the only vertically split ring I will use for now.

All that said, there are much less expensive rings that work very well, but the ARCs are my current favorite.

John


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