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I was there....In-laws made it out of the plane before it sank- basically un-injured.. I was there (from my remote Interior Alaska cabin) 3 or 4 days later when they pulled the plane up on the ramp. FAA guy cracked the cowling, looked at the oil plug, and said "That's it, then".
Apparently free-floating bodies in cold water don't bloat well and are harder to recover than a metal aircraft.
I was assuming that not all the people would still be in the aircraft. No problem with recovery if they are.
As the old saying goes Lake Superior never gives up her dead. The water is so cold year around that bodies don't fill up with gas and float after being in the water for a few days. They just sink to the bottom. I imagine the same is true in your case. Sorry for your loss.
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Cessna 206 and a De Havilland Beaver - ugly - local folks said lots of flying in the areas that day. Last few years have been hard on Beavers. That's a fact.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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Shame. They are good planes.
Not pretty, not fast. But good for getting stuff & people in and out of remote spots..
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Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay "
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las--sorry to hear this, I hope someone stuff a boot up the mechanics arse!
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Latest update:
They've recovered 6 bodies. They estimate that the other 2 could be in 125' of water.
One plane was a charter seaplane carrying 6 people. The other was a private plane with 2 aboard. There's no word yet on how they collided.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
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My (admittedly unknowing) Guess would be distracted pilot responding to passenger question or pointing out sights. (In the private) as it sounded like there were two crew in the charter.
-OMotS
"If memory serves fails me..."
Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay "
Television and radio are most effective when people question little and think even less.
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Campfire Kahuna
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The charter had the pilot, a tourist and his 2 kids, and another man, as of yet unidentified. The ID's of the 2 in the private plane haven't been released yet. It was most assuredly pilot error from 1 of them but they don't know which one yet...and might never know. I'd bet on the private plane. Most of those charter pilots have been around a while but that's no guarantee.
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My wife and I flew on a flight in this plane several years ago on Lake Coeur d'Lene. I wonder if this seaplane were involved in the crash? ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/h47SwzJ1/Float-Plane.jpg) L.W.
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The charter was owned by Brooks Seaplane.
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The charter had the pilot, a tourist and his 2 kids, and another man, as of yet unidentified. The ID's of the 2 in the private plane haven't been released yet. It was most assuredly pilot error from 1 of them but they don't know which one yet...and might never know. I'd bet on the private plane. Most of those charter pilots have been around a while but that's no guarantee. Thanks RC. When they reported "passengers and crew" I figured they were differentiating from "pilot and passengers" for a reason. Either pilot could have made the error, but particularly an amphibious charter pilot would typically think in more dimensions....I would guess. Clarification: Was the Beaver or the 206 the amphibious plane? I know they both can be set up as such. leanwolf's photo looks like a Beaver.
Last edited by OldmanoftheSea; 07/08/20.
-OMotS
"If memory serves fails me..."
Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay "
Television and radio are most effective when people question little and think even less.
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Watching the news here just north they have identified those recovered.
Conduct is the best proof of character.
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I used to be certified as a diver. 125 feet isn’t real deep .
I just muff dive these days.
Condolences to all involved.
Bob
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Found the other plane and the last two bodies...Krem2 news...
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It's good that the bodies were recovered.
The investigators will be able to tell from the damage pattern who hit whom, from what angle, and who therefore screwed up.
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They recovered one and are going back down for the other body today.. They found the other plane..
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